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Combi Series Webinar December 2008 Combi Oven Webinar: Combi Ovens Frank Barrett-Mills December 8, 208. Combi Ovens Program. Equipment overview Specific Operational Information C/CPE K/KPE Features Competition How To sell Summery. Combi King Overview.

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Combi Series Webinar December 2008Combi Oven Webinar: Combi OvensFrank Barrett-Mills December 8, 208

Combi ovens program
Combi Ovens Program

  • Equipment overview

  • Specific Operational Information C/CPE K/KPE

  • Features

  • Competition

  • How To sell Summery

Combi king overview
Combi King Overview

  • Largest selection of Combi ovens in the industry

  • Both Boiler and Boilerless and the only company to offer a Bi-Combi

  • Controls for every customers needs

  • Stacking units

  • In combination with other BKI equipment

The widest oven range in the world

  • 3 oven lines K/C/B

  • 2 levels of equipment boiler and boilerless

  • 9 oven sizes


  • High efficiently boiler with preset warnings for de-lime process

  • Simple de-lime process

  • Controlled blow down and refills saves water (20% savings over Rational)*Wisconsin Combi Test

  • Decreases Root Vegetable cooking by 30%

Boiler less
Boiler less

  • Controls water use

  • Cooks everything the Boiler unit can

  • No Service costs for delimeing (est $300.00 a year, source Applebee's Restaurants )

  • Simple Cleaning of nozzle no boiler

  • Cost of electrical use lower

Bi combi
Bi Combi

  • You are the only supplier of a combi that can switch from Boiler to Boiler-less with three key strokes

  • Energy savings of 20% when in Boiler less mode

  • Water savings .5 gal hr for C/CPE units K units 2.5 gal hr.

  • Use of boiler and boiler-less allows for an extended time between de-liming

The c control
The C control

  • Simple knob and icon programming and operation.

  • 10 programs with 3 steps in each

  • 3 types of cooking Convection, Convection with moisture and Steam only

  • Multiple fan speed selections

  • Diagnostics

  • Pre-set basic cooking and semi automatic clean cycles

The cpe control
The CPE Control

  • Touch pad controls and programming

  • 200 programs with 10 steps in each program

  • Full pre-heat and cool down in all programs

  • Clear screen can be seen from a distance

  • Full maintained and diagnostic program supplied

  • Full internet hook up supplied

  • Full cook and hold and Delta T

  • Program

  • Full HACCP program supplied

  • Remote operation by internet

Controls for everyone
Controls for everyone

  • C/K and CPE/KPE controls can be operated in a manual time, temp, mode cooking

  • C/K controls give the security of a know operation for those who have problems with computer controls

  • KPE/CPE allows for the manual cook and the highest sophistation of a fully programmable computer.

Additional important features
Additional Important Features

  • All CPE/KPE units get memory slots for memory sticks that can be pre-programmed for easy upgrades and menu changes

  • Duel release doors protect operator and are additional cost with some and not available with others

  • Hose sprayer not supplied bys some and additional cost by some

  • Double glass/Cool Door system protects view to unit with easy cleaning, and acts as a heat barrier for cool door operation

  • Easily removable door gasket for easy cleaning and prolonged life.

Features continued
Features Continued

  • Safety moisture catch from door to protect against wet floors as condensation drips down door. Also self empting

  • Adjustable audible notifications

  • Brightness of screen adjustable

  • Multiple languages, program in one and then convert to another

  • With all combis, a filtration system is supplied


  • #1 Rational

  • #2 Alto Shaam

  • #3 Henny Penny

  • #4 Cleveland

  • #5 Blodget

  • #6 Electrolux(watch out for these people)


  • Preceded leader discussion

  • All boiler units vulnerable due to energy and maintenance

  • Chef program and marketing the best

  • Local demos available and scheduled over the year

  • Ground swell support as they were the first and did it well.

  • Price above our boiler-less discussion

Alto shaam
Alto Shaam

  • Price leader, with some unique sizes

  • The price for the unit is not the price for the unit, you build to where ours is

  • Single door system

  • Confusing operation

  • Chef Support available

  • Water drip problem

  • Both boiler and boiler-less systems

  • 7 pan system debunked( discuss)

  • Major price increase on the way

  • Big labor shake up

Henny penny
Henny Penny

  • Great competition over complete line. Price increase 12/1/08 helps

  • Combi ovens have not been widely accepted since they moved away from Rational to MTA oven from France

  • Hard to program

  • Heat exchanger problems with gas

  • Lack of understanding of how to service

  • Management shake up at the top

Henny penny continued
Henny Penny Continued

  • Small selection of sizes

  • Spec holes for us to fill

  • Program not as sophisticated as ours

  • Distributor focus problem nationally now


  • Have some interesting accessories Hiding door

  • High prices

  • Boiler and Boiler less

  • Little chef support

  • No support on line

  • Rep sold knowledge problems

  • High energy and water use

  • Discuss


  • Not a strong player in our industry

  • More known for restaurant

  • Size mix is good

  • Controls are difficult to operate (computer unit)

  • Price point high

  • Boilers only

  • Delime program difficult and semi automatic delime not successful


  • The most unknown of all the units

  • First review of units done two weeks ago hands on

  • Controls are difficult and unnerving

  • Few sizes

  • Performance good, systems work

  • Both Boiler and Boiler-less

  • Priced High

  • More to come