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SC A1 ADVISORY GROUP A1.02 – Hydro Generators WG A1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines

SC A1 ADVISORY GROUP A1.02 – Hydro Generators WG A1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUP A1.02 – Hydro Generators WG A1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines Scope of work: Report on Experience Update SECOND PART OF THIS WORK: GROUP-1 USERS 21.09.2009.

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SC A1 ADVISORY GROUP A1.02 – Hydro Generators WG A1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines

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  1. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines SC A1 ADVISORY GROUP A1.02 – Hydro Generators WG A1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines Scope of work: Report on Experience Update SECOND PART OF THIS WORK: GROUP-1 USERS 21.09.2009 Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

  2. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines Calculation of the real size of the Generator Fire Protection Update Information Gathering, Statistics and Presentation measured by the number of surveyed items: I believe that it is important to show this calculation in order to allow to the interested fellow members to know the real dimensions of this huge task and to understand the time required to accomplish this task that is being made by one sole person! On the other hand, Dr. Kranz’s original version was made by a Working Group. Here it is to point out the importance of the contribution gave by the fellow members by answering the questionnaire in the total of 65 contributions for the different Groups – allowing this work to reach this dimension. Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

  3. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

  4. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

  5. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines In addition to that an extensive work will be done to issue the Update’s conclusions! Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

  6. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines Real size of the Generator Fire Protection Update – measured by the number of surveyed items: [Surveyed item: Check-Box or Open questions] Part 1- ready in 2008 - 465 Part 2- ready in 2009 - 3640 909 + Conclusions Part 3- forecast for 2010 - TOTAL 5014 Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

  7. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines Dr. Kranz’s original paper: HOW ABOUT THE CONCLUSIONS? At first we recall that this work is an UPDATE being so the final step of it will be a comparative analysis of the original conclusions made by the Working group lead by Dr. Kranz back in 1981 and the conclusions of the present work. Since we are considering the contributions of Users (Group-1), Manufacturers (Group-2), Insurance Companies (Group-3), and Consulting Companies (Group-6) there will be a possibility to compare the results on the coincident items. This will be made at the final stage of the work and in this particular case based upon a large and deep survey made on a total of 5014 survey items. Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

  8. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines The next examples are shown to give an idea of how the final evaluation will look like It is clear that the reading is difficult due to the size of the letters. But the time available for this presentation does not allow to go deep in to details at this occasion. Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

  9. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

  10. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines Dr. Kranz’s conclusions go up to the number 17... Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

  11. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines The present part of the GFP Update 174 pages long was put on a special independent Internet Site for viewing and evaluation on August the 21th. http://www.consultasi.com.br/cigre2/ Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

  12. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines Provisions were taken to make the reading of the documents as easy and straightforward as possible by the use of hyperlinks that allow easy navigation throughout the document when read on a PC. More than 200 e-mails were sent to inform about this facts, divulge the Site’s address and invite the visitors to read the document and make their on-line evaluation until September the 10th . A reminder e-mail was sent. The Site received 145 hits from 34 cities from 18 countries (status September 10th) this allows to say that the divulgation was broad as the next picture shows: Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

  13. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

  14. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines A total of 12 evaluations were received up to September 10, 2009 from eight countries, as follows: Brazil (2), Norway (2), New Zealand (1), Japan (1), Croatia (1), Australia (2), Poland (2) and Switzerland (1), they answered to the following questions: 1) The applied working scheme follows what was approved for the first phase. Looking at this stage (Group 1 - Users) is this scheme still appropriate? Result: 12 answers YES 2) How is the level of detail of this document? Result: 12 answers “SATISFACTORY” 3) The collected information fulfills the GFP Update requirements? Result: 12 answers “YES” 4) Considering the text of the questionnaire items evaluation and their annexes do you consider the presented document sufficiently complete? Result: 12 answers “YES” Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

  15. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines Convener: Alexander Gromow (Born 1947) a.gromow@gromow.com Lives in: São Paulo /SP Brazil Profession: Electrical Engineer optionElectrotechnic Graduated in: 1971 by the University Mackenzie – São Paulo; Medal Thomas Alva Edison – 1st Place at all five graduation years. Professional experience: - Electrical equipment for industry (focus on Steel Plants): 6 years (2½ years in Germany) – in parallel Professor at the University Mackenzie - Waterpower: 20 years - also including 11+2=13 years for Itaipu Project – as WGG – Working Group Generators Coordinator-CIEM after as Technical Director-CEITAIPU and additional 2½ years in Germany. - Thermal power: 4 years - Fire protection engineering and application: present occupation for 8 years… - Languages:Fluent: Portuguese, German, English and Spanish Speak and read: Russian, French and Italian. Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

  16. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines At this moment I would like to thank to all colleagues that contributed by fulfilling the questionnaire sharing their valuable experience with the community involved. And now to those that read the present Part-2 Users and in special to those that made the evaluation. All received contributions are present in this work by means of the annexes that show the original contributions received. This shows the transparency of this work and gives material for those that need to go deeper in the analysis. Special mention to the support this work received from CIGRÉ Brazil for the costs of the important Computer Technological Support delivered by the Company ConsultASI from Belo Horizonte / MG Brazil. Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

  17. SC A1 ADVISORY GROUPA1.02 – Hydro Generators WGA1.04 Generator Fire Protection Guidelines Thanks for your attention and hope to meet you in Paris at the next Biannual Meeting 2 0 10 à PARIS!!! Convener ofWorking Group A1.04: Alexander Gromow Brazilian Regular Member of SC-A1: Jacques Philipe Marcel Sanz Chairman A1: Erli Ferreira Figueiredo

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