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NATIONAL BOARD OF EXAMINATIONS. ANBAI MEETING 3 rd AUGUST,BANGALORE. FEES. Discussion point a & b. NBE constituted a committee under the chairpersonship of Dr. R.N. Salhan.

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National board of examinations

NATIONAL BOARD OF EXAMINATIONS

ANBAI MEETING

3rd AUGUST,BANGALORE


FEES

Discussion point a & b

  • NBE constituted a committee under the chairpersonship of Dr. R.N. Salhan.

  • The committee consulted various stakeholders who are involved and would be affected by the revision of fees for DNB candidates.

  • The committee has given its report for revision of fee rules and fee schedule & guidelines for the DNB candidates.

  • The committee has recommended the revision of fees to Rs, 100,000 and has also prescribed a yearly breakup of fees for the candidates to prevent any immediate monetary burden on them and their families.

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FEES

  • The committee has also specified that the fee shall be paid by the candidate only through Demand Draft/Cheque/electronic transfer and under no circumstances by cash.

  • The committee has also made recommendations on the stipend for DNB candidates, which either be as mentioned below or as per State Government Norms, whichever is higher.

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FEES

  • For Post Diploma candidates, the stipend shall be as follows

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II. STUDENT RELATED ISSUES

Discussion Point 1. Duty Hours

  • National Board of examinations has not prescribed in any of its guidelines, any specific number of hours for DNB students for performance of clinical/ hospital duties.

  • The candidates are required to be on duty and discharge clinical and hospital work as may be assigned by the hospital/ institution administration.

  • It is not possible to announce the results of DNB examinations institute wise.

  • However results are announced specialty wise both at NBE website and at NBE Notice Board as well as in NBE Annual Report.

Discussion Point 2. Announcement of Results of the DNB examinations

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II. STUDENT RELATED ISSUES

  • The topic of thesis & details of proposed thesis guide are not asked immediately after joining of candidates.

  • Instead the same is required to be filled in the form for registration with NBE which can be submitted up to 30 days of joining the DNB training.

  • Keeping in view of 90 days time to submit thesis protocol, 30 days time is adequate enough to identify possible research area and thesis guide.

  • The same has been quoted in the allotment letter, registration form and registration guidelines stated in the handbook for counseling.

Discussion Point 3.Thesis Topic & Guide

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II. STUDENT RELATED ISSUES

DOCUMENTS TO BE SUBMITTED

TO NBE

At the Time of Counseling

  • -Rank Letter

  • -DNB CET Result Certificate

  • -MBBS Degree certificate/

  • Provisional Pass Certificate of MBBS*

  • -Permanent Registration

  • certificate issued by MCI/State Medical

  • Council for registration of MBBS

  • qualification.

  • -Proof of MBBS Qualification

  • being recognized as per IMC Act/

  • Central Government.

  • -Internship Completion Certificate

  • -Mark sheets of all MBBS Professional

  • Examinations.

  • -Matriculation/High School/Higher

  • Secondary Certificate as a proof of Date

  • of Birth.

  • -SC/ST/PWD/OBC certificate issued by

  • competent authority, if applicable.

  • -Caste certificate must be issued by

  • competent authority.

  • -Any document confirming the name of

  • the institution/medical college from

  • where the MBBS qualification was

  • pursued.

  • -Proof of identity

  • -Any other relevant document.

30 Days

  • -Duly filled Application Form– Registration as DNB Trainee

  • -Bank Chalaan

  • -Annexure A

90 Days

Thesis Protocol

Submission

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II. STUDENT RELATED ISSUES

Discussion Point 4 & 5: Misconduct of Students

  • National board of Examinations shall not ordinarily interfere in any dispute which is a work place dispute or an issue involving the accredited institute or the candidate.

  • However in rare or exceptional cases NBE may consider the issue for necessary action or adjudication.

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Iii thesis protocol
III. THESIS PROTOCOL

Discussion Point 1. Guidelines regarding the submission of thesis protocol

  • The guidelines for writing and submission of thesis and thesis protocol are already available on National Board of Examinations website. Moreover accreditation is granted to the department having a PG teacher who is well experienced with guiding the student about how to write a thesis protocol and thesis.

  • It is far from understanding how candidates are finding it difficult to write thesis and protocol under guidance of well trained PG teachers who have wide teaching experience.

  • Based on your request, we shall be sending a compendium of guidelines to all DNB coordinators soon

  • Already in Place

Discussion Point 2. Request of introduction of a system of e- acknowledgement of thesis

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III. THESIS PROTOCOL

  • In the year 2012-13, a total of 3657 number of thesis was received at the NBE office for assessment of which 100 percent have been processed.

  • 67.8% (2481) have been accepted & communication has already been issued to the concerned candidates, 12% (438) have been advised modification & concerned candidates have been communicated to submit thesis after necessary modifications and 20.2% (739) of thesis are still under assessment.

  • It is to mention here that 13 candidates have not submitted their modified thesis even more than 1 year after communication was issued though they were given 6 weeks time to modify the thesis as advised.

  • 6 theses were reported lost during transit from concerned assessor to NBE. For administrative reasons, these candidates have been advised to resubmit a copy of their thesis to NBE.

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III. THESIS PROTOCOL

  • An alarming data has come out of the analysis done by NBE that more than 69.6% (689) of June 2013 exam going candidates have not submitted their thesis for assessment to NBE in time.

  • For June 13 examination going candidates, the last date to submit thesis was 31st of December 2012, only 30.4% (301) of total expected thesis were received at NBE office.

  • To extend maximum benefits to the candidates, the cutoff date to submit thesis was extended twice. Even after extended cutoff date, 110 candidates failed to submit their thesis to NBE.

  • The institutions are requested to abide by the timelines for thesis submission which are well notified on NBE website as well as information bulletins published by NBE time to time.

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III. THESIS PROTOCOL

  • In circumstances where theses are submitted to NBE irregularly out of the schedule, it becomes very difficult to ensure completion of assessment process by the time candidate gets his/her DNB final exam result. This results into results/PPC getting withheld due to lack of thesis acceptance.

  • In view of a number of thesis being received with not an expected quality of research work, NBE has taken a step forward to get all thesis protocols assessed centrally and to advise the candidates to modify their proposed research work accordingly.

  • This exercise was not satisfactorily delivered by the institutional ethical/research committees.

Discussion Point 3. The review and acceptance of the thesis protocol by NBE presently is taking a long time

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III. THESIS PROTOCOL

  • Candidates are required to furnish the thesis protocols to NBE within 90 days of their joining DNB training. However, it’s a rarity to see a protocol being submitted in time.

  • Institutions are forwarding protocols to NBE for assessment as late as the time when thesis submission cutoff date has been over/about to be over. In such circumstances, it is not possible to offer assessment remarks on such protocols.

  • In 2012-2013, around 1796 protocols were received in NBE office of which around 75% have been processed and outcome has been communicated to the candidates. Rests of the protocols are under assessment or can not be assessed as the deadline for thesis submission is already over/shortly approaching.

  • 95 out of 369 candidates who have been registered with NBE for DNB training in year 2013 have not submitted their thesis protocols despite 90 days timeline being over and each of them being reminded through individual telephonic calls.

IV. ASSESSMENT FOR ACCREDITATION AND SCHEDULE

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III. THESIS PROTOCOL

  • So far there is no administrative penalty being imposed on erring candidates/ institutions who fail to submit thesis protocol in time. Institutions are requested to encourage the candidates to submit thesis protocols to NBE well in time so as the outcome can be communicated in a timely manner.

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Iv assessment for accreditation and schedule
IV. ASSESSMENT FOR ACCREDITATION AND SCHEDULE

Discussion point 1. Schedule of Inspection

  • NBE has defined and formulated a clear set of guidelines and criteria regarding inspection of hospitals/institutes. A calendar for accreditation of hospitals (both fresh and renewal) is a process of one year and NBE ensures that the same is maintained.

  • A case wherein inspection is delayed beyond prescribed schedule is due to compliance being awaited from the hospital regarding deficiencies noted in the application submitted.

  • The calendar for accreditation of hospitals is as follows:

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IV. ASSESSMENT FOR ACCREDITATION AND SCHEDULE

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IV. ASSESSMENT FOR ACCREDITATION AND SCHEDULE

APPLICATION

SCRUTINY

NO DEFICIENCY

DEFICIENT

RECIEVED

REPORT

RECEIVED

SEEK

COMPLIANCE

SCRUTINY

NO DEFICIENCY

NO DEFICIENCY

SEEK

COMPLIANCE

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IV. ASSESSMENT FOR ACCREDITATION AND SCHEDULE

Discussion point 2: Frequency & Schedule of External Appraisal

  • The purpose of local appraiser is to further improve the quality of training, assess the training infrastructure for the DNB candidates and also assist the local institutions to develop in to a center of academic excellence.

  • National Board appoints Local experts/appraisers from hospitals in the vicinity of the concerned Hospital/Medical Institute.

  • National Board is conducting appraisal of all the accredited Hospitals/Medical Institutes on an annual basis. The appraisal is done of the Hospitals/Medical Institutions all over India.

  • The feedback of the shortcomings observed and suggestions for further improvement is communicated to the concerned hospital/medical institute and each DNB trainee for further improvement.

  • The concerned Hospital/Medical Institute bears the remuneration expenses for the appointed local expert/appraiser

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IV. ASSESSMENT FOR ACCREDITATION AND SCHEDULE

Discussion point 3: Completion of training for Jan 2013 Session

  • NBE shall make all possible efforts that the academic session of candidates registered through the second phase of counseling in August 2013 is not disturbed.

  • The candidates shall be able to undertake December 2015 DNB Final Examinations.

  • However they will be required to complete their full training at their respective hospitals/ institutes as per NBE guidelines and complete their training by mid 2016.

  • There is no kind of preference given by NBE to any particular state/ city for selection of professors and examiners for evaluation of theory papers or practical examinations.

  • NBE also ensures that most of the examiners appointed are from DNB institutes all over the country.

IV. ASSESSMENT FOR ACCREDITATION AND SCHEDULE

Discussion point 4: Appointment of Examiners

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IV. ASSESSMENT FOR ACCREDITATION AND SCHEDULE

  • Last year for the session of December 2012, approximately 800 examiners and assessors were appointed by NBE for theory and practical examinations from all over the country. Out of all the examiners appointed, around 70% of them were from various DNB institutes accredited with the NBE.

  • In December 2012, out of the total 165 assessors appointed for theory papers evaluation, 111 of them were from DNB institutes all over the country.

  • In practical examinations also, around 650 assessors were appointed by NBE from various institutes all over the country with majority of them coming from various DNB institutes accredited with NBE.

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V communication
V. COMMUNICATION

  • Each Department within NBE has a query handling unit as an integral part exclusively for the purpose of addressing specific queries from candidates and institutes.

  • Apart from departmental divisions a Contact Center has been established for receiving and sending large volume of telephonic and email queries.

  • Also please be apprised that NBE has mentioned in all its guidelines that an e mail query shall be addressed only if it is not anonymous and contains the name, postal address and contact number of the sender.

  • An e mail containing vague or general queries seeking information already contained in the information bulletin shall not be entertained. Queries shall not be entertained from person claiming themselves to be representative, associate or officiates of the candidate/ institute.

  • Department wise data of e mail communication between the NBE and candidate for last 3 months is provided below:

IV. ASSESSMENT FOR ACCREDITATION AND SCHEDULE

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V. COMMUNICATION

IV. ASSESSMENT FOR ACCREDITATION AND SCHEDULE

  • Communication Protocol: For Accreditation

  • Average time duration between the assessment report being received and communication being issued is around 30 days.

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V. COMMUNICATION

  • A reminder in advance regarding the expiry of accreditation is sent to all concerned Institutions/Hospitals.

  • A schedule for submission of application seeking fresh/renewal of accreditation is communicated to each NBE accredited hospitals/institutions by post and by email as well as a public notice in this regard is also uploaded on the NBE official website.

  • 100% applications received for seeking fresh/renewal of accreditation are acknowledged.

    Communication Details of Contact Center

    1. Email Communications via [email protected]

    The NBE contact centre receives emails directly from candidates seeking various information related to examination, thesis status etc. The contact centre sends the queries to the respective sections for the solutions and then reverts back to the candidate.

IV. ASSESSMENT FOR ACCREDITATION AND SCHEDULE

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V. COMMUNICATION

IV. ASSESSMENT FOR ACCREDITATION AND SCHEDULE

* It may vary as per the nature of the query

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V. COMMUNICATION

2. Telephonic Communication

  • NBE Contact Center is functioning for both Inbound and Outbound calls. An Inbound Contact Center of NBE is operated by Candidate Care Executives (CCEs) to manage incoming quires from the candidates.

  • Outbound Contact Center of NBE is operated for calling the candidates/ doctors/ hospitals etc for providing them the information regarding their thesis status, results, hospital accreditation, CME workshops and for taking their valuable feedback which is used for internal trainings and improvements.

    * Service Level Percent: The percentage of incoming calls that are answered by the Contact Center within a specified time period.

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V. COMMUNICATION

  • Many appreciation e mails have been received by the Candidate Care Executives from time to time. Between April and June 2013, 91 such mails have been received from the candidates.

  • Hence the assertion made is wrong and far from actual facts.

IV. ASSESSMENT FOR ACCREDITATION AND SCHEDULE

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Vi accreditation
VI. ACCREDITATION

Discussion Point a: Renewal of Accreditation

  • The statement made that timely inspections are not being conducted by NBE is completely baseless and vague allegation. In fact, NBE makes all possible efforts to ensure that timely inspection for hospitals/institutes are conducted so that accreditation can be granted to them as per prescribed schedule.

    Status of the Applications received for seeking Fresh/Renewal of Accreditation in the year 2012

    * Out of these applications received, 150 applications were submitted by the Hospitals/Institutions after the prescribed cut of date of which 90 were for even June-2012 expiry.

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VI. ACCREDITATION

  • Communications to all concerned Institutions/Hospitals have already been issued.

  • Processing of less than 5% of Renewal cases is still ongoing primarily due to non-submission of compliance by concerned Hospitals/Institutions for deficiencies observed in the application/by NBE appointed assessor.

  • Processing of less than 4% of Fresh cases is still ongoing primarily due to non-submission of compliance by concerned Hospitals/Institutions for deficiencies observed in the application/by NBE appointed assessor.

  • Please be apprised that the physical assessment is recommended only after NBE office has ensured that all necessary information is available in the application submitted by the institute/hospital. Assessment gets delayed if the compliance is not furnished or not furnished as per prescribed norms.

VI. ACCREDITATION

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VI. ACCREDITATION

  • Status of the Applications received for seeking Fresh/Renewal of Accreditation in the year 2013

    A total of 604 applications (392 Renewal + 212 Fresh) seeking fresh/renewal of accreditation have been received in the current year. 100% applications have been acknowledged and further processed. 80 compliance reports are still awaited at the end of Hospitals/Institutions despite repeated reminders.

  • It is not possible for NBE to upload Assessment Form A & B on NBE website as these forms are for restricted use by NBE appointed specialty assessor for NBE accreditation. Further, these forms if uploaded on the website are liable to abuse.

VI. ACCREDITATION

Discussion Point b: Inspection for Reaccreditation

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Vii dnb examinations
VII. DNB EXAMINATIONS

Discussion Point a

  • DNB Final Exit Examination is a highly structured examination which has been formulated keeping all the possibilities in mind. One single examiner or performance does not define the candidate as a whole.

  • Infact having different assessors for evaluating the candidates helps in increasing validity and reliability of the candidate assessment. Hence making such a statement that a dislike by an examiner can affect the result of the candidate is beyond understanding. During an assessment of the answer sheets, the examiner is evaluating the answers of the candidate and not him.

  • During objective assessment, NBE already has an itemized method of assessment in place which is followed by all the examiners.

  • Hence the statement made that sub par performance in even one of the parts will effect the result of the candidate is a completely vague statement.

Discussion Point b

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VII. DNB EXAMINATIONS

Discussion Point c

  • There has been no information or complaint from anyone of any such instance of candidates being humiliated by examiners from medical colleges.

  • Students are well aware of the fact that they are free to contact NBE if they face any problem during their examination or at the institute during training.

  • The statement made about the fact that the pass rates in practical examinations are extremely low is completely vague and away from the truth. In December 2012, a total of 1910 candidates passed the practical examinations with a an overall passing percentage of 67 %.

  • The passing percentage for practical examinations for all the subjects in the session of December 2012 is given below:

Discussion Point d

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VII. DNB EXAMINATIONS

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VII. DNB EXAMINATIONS

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VII. DNB EXAMINATIONS

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Viii dnb curriculum for general surgery
VIII. DNB Curriculum for General Surgery

The curriculum for General Surgery is uploaded on the website.

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