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Competitive Comparison For I/O & Communications

Competitive Comparison For I/O & Communications. SIRIUS Motor Management. SIEMENS SIMOCODE pro C SIMOCODE pro V Rockwell 825-P E3 Plus EATON IT Schneider Motor Logic Plus Motor Logic Plus II General Electric MM2 MM3. SIEMENS. Rockwell. EATON. Schneider. General Electric.

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Competitive Comparison For I/O & Communications

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  1. Competitive Comparison For I/O & Communications SIRIUS Motor Management • SIEMENS • SIMOCODE pro C • SIMOCODE pro V • Rockwell • 825-P • E3 Plus • EATON • IT • Schneider • Motor Logic Plus • Motor Logic Plus II • General Electric • MM2 • MM3 SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Schneider General Electric

  2. SIEMENS - SIMOCODE pro - I/O & Communications SIRIUS Motor Management SIEMENS Note: Profibus communications are made available with the SIMOCODE ES Professional software for both the pro C and pro V. Rockwell EATON pro C pro V Schneider General Electric Temperature Measurements Communication Digital Earth Fault 4I 24VDC 3O 24VDC or 110-240V AC/DC MONO Internal Monitoring 1I PTC Thermistor Profibus DP

  3. SIEMENS - SIMOCODE pro V - Expansion SIRIUS Motor Management SIMOCODE pro SIEMENS Note: Expansion modules for the pro V only. Rockwell EATON Separate CT is required for Earth Fault. Schneider Digital General Electric Temperature Measurements 4I / 2O 24VDC MONO Voltage Earth Fault 4I / 2O 110-240V AC/DC MONO Analog 4I / 2O 24VDC BI 4I / 2O 110-240V AC/DC BI 690VAC Max 3I RTD, PTC, NTC KTY 0.3A, 0.5A & 1A 2I / 1O 0/4 …20mA Note: Maximum of five expansion modules.

  4. SIMOCODE pro C Offers the customer the most cost effective motor management solution. Comes standard with onboard Profibus communications Powerful, open and rugged bus system with 126 nodes per. High speed 12Mbit/s Standardized components across manufactures. Maximum optical distance 90km. Maximum electrical distance 9.6km. Maximum telegram size 244bytes Offers the customer the most functionality at the lowest cost. Digital I/O Temp PTC In Internal Earth Fault Local Logic Diagnostics & Monitoring SIMOCODE pro V Offers the customer a high degree of functionality at the lowest cost. Power Monitoring RTD Temp. 0/4…20mA Analog Input/Output As low as 0.3A GF Scalability & Flexibility Modularity with small foot print. SIMOCODE ES Professional Offers the customer an user friendly parameterization software interface. Graphical interface offers customer visual representation of functions. Object manager offers customer seamless integration into STEP 7. PCS 7 function block library offers customer seamless integration into PCS 7 process control system. SIEMENS - SIMOCODE pro - Selling Points SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Schneider General Electric

  5. ProComm Plus Relay/Gold Microsoft HyperTerminal SmartCom CROSSTALK Rockwell - 825-P - I/O & Communications SIRIUS Motor Management SIMOCODE pro Note: Emulation programs that can communicate with 825-P. SIEMENS Rockwell EATON 825-P Schneider General Electric Temperature Measurements Communication Digital 6I PTC max. sensors in series 2I 24V AC/DC 3O 110-240VAC RS 232 Serial ASCII

  6. Rockwell - 825-P - Expansion SIRIUS Motor Management SIMOCODE pro Note: RSNetWorx is needed for DeviceNet communication. SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Separate CT is required for Ground Fault. Schneider Digital & Analog General Electric Communication Temperature Measurements Ground Fault 3I 24V AC/DC 4O 110-240VAC 1O 0/4…20mA Voltage DeviceNet w/ DeviceLogix 3I 110-240V AC/DC 4O 110-240VAC 1O 0/4…20mA 0.01A… 25A 12I RTD 3Wire 300VAC Max Modbus RTU Note: Maximum of three option card slots.

  7. Rockwell - 825-P - Silver Bullets SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management The 825-P strength is that it offers a maximum amount of functionality that anyone could want, but at what cost? Price • The list price for the basic unit, and the CT module is $3,500. • The list price for this solution loaded is $6,400. • At this price range this unit is only suited for large motor control. Analog Out • What is your cost per point for a single analog output 0/4…20mA? Size • This unit is too large to fit into a MCC bucket. • Regardless of the size Rockwell has the standard Amp range set to 0.5…630A. SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Schneider General Electric

  8. Rockwell - E3 Plus - I/O & Communications SIRIUS Motor Management SIMOCODE pro Note: Control circuit 24VDC is supplied via DeviceNet!!! If DeviceNet goes down so does the E3 Plus!!! SIEMENS Rockwell Note: RSNetWorx is needed for DeviceNet communication. EATON Schneider E3 Plus General Electric Temperature Measurements Communication Digital 4I 24VDC 6I PTC max. sensors in series DeviceNet w/ DeviceLogix 2O 24VDC or 110-240VAC Note: No voltage or analog options!

  9. Rockwell - E3 Plus - Expansion SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Separate CT is required for Ground Fault. Schneider General Electric Ground Fault Digital 4I 110-240V AC 1A…5A Note: Maximum of one AC input module!

  10. Rockwell - E3 Plus - Expansion SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management This handheld programmer can be operated 1m, and up to 10m away. Also this unit can be used as the operator panel, and panel mounted. SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Schneider Programming and Control Terminal General Electric This gives the E3 Plus the ability to retrofit other Rockwell systems and their competitors! Also Rockwell offers copper terminal lugs which can be used in the same manner! DIN Rail/Panel Adapter

  11. Rockwell - Bulletin 193-EC January 2005 SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management Inputs are rated 24V DC and are current sinking. Power for the inputs is sourced from the DeviceNet network connection with convenient customer terminations at control terminal 5 and 6. SIEMENS Rockwell Rated Supply Voltage (Us) 24V DC (supply via DeviceNet connection) EATON Schneider General Electric Input Ratings Supply Voltage 24V DC +or- 10% (provided by E3) messages (series B only)

  12. Rockwell - Bulletin 193-EC January 2005 SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Schneider General Electric

  13. Rockwell - E3 Plus - Silver Bullets SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management Control Power is supplied via DeviceNet!!! • Neither the E3 Plus manual or the Bulletin 193-EC January 2005 disprove this control power supply problem. • When DeviceNet goes down so does the E3 Plus!!! Power • No power monitoring, or Cos-phi monitoring! • What is the additional cost for the Rockwell solution to have power monitoring? SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Schneider General Electric

  14. Rockwell - E3 Plus - Sliver Bullets SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management Analog • What is your cost per point for a analog input of 0/4…20mA? • What is your cost per point for a analog output signal? Price • Cost more than the SIMOCODE pro, and yet it has less functionality! SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Schneider General Electric

  15. Rockwell - E3 Plus Communication Limitation! Current Monitor Cont. • Overload • L1 % FLA • L2 % FLA • L3 % FLA • AVG % FLA • % Therm Utilized • GF Current • Current Imbal. Diagnostic Para. • Time to Trip • Time to Reset • Trip Status • Warning Status • Trip Log 0 • Trip Log 1 • Trip Log 2 • Trip Log 3 • Trip Log 4 • Device Status Programmable Para. • Trip Enable • Warning Enable • 1P/3P • FLA • Trip Class • CT Ratio • In 1 Program Para. Cont. • In 2 • In 3 • In 4 • 2-Speed • 2-Speed FLA • GF Trip Inhibit • Trip Reset • Program Lock • Set to Defaults • Auto Baud • NonVol Baud Rate • COS Mask • Output Assy • Input Assy • Assy Word 0 • Assy Word 1 • Assy Word 2 • Assy Word 3 • Comm Override • Network Override • Net Outputs • Net Out COS Mask • OutA Pr Flt State • OutA Pr Flt Value • OutA Dn Flt S • OutA Dn Flt V • OutA Dn Idl S Program. Para. Cont. • OutA Dn Idl V • OutB Pr Flt State • OutB Pr Flt Value • OutB Dn Flt S • OutB Dn Flt V • OutB Dn Idl S • OutB Dn Idl S • OutB Dn Idl V Key Trip • RL = Reset Level • I = Inhibit Time • D = Trip Delay • L = Trip Level Key Warning • L = Warning Level SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management Trip Summary • Overload RL • Phase Loss I/D • Ground Fault I/D/L • Stall T/L • Jam I/D/L • Underload T/D/L • PTC R • Current Imbal. I/D/L • Comm Fault • Comm Idle • Remote Trip Warning Summary • Overload L • Phase Loss • Ground Fault L • Stall • Jam L • Underload L • PTC • Current Imbal. L • Comm Fault • Comm Idle Current Monitor • L1 Current • L2 Current • L3 Current • Average Current SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Schneider General Electric

  16. EATON - IT – I/O & Communications SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Note: No voltage, temperature, analog options!!! Schneider General Electric However… IT Digital 4I 24VDC & 1O relay

  17. EATON - IT - Expansion SIRIUS Motor Management SIMOCODE pro Digital 8I 24VDC SIEMENS Separate CT is required for Ground Fault. 16I 24VDC Rockwell 8O 24VDC Communication 16O 24VDC EATON 8I 120VAC Schneider 16I 120VAC 8O 120VAC triac General Electric 16O 120VAC triac DeviceNet (DSNAP) 8O relay AC/DC DeviceNet (QCPort) Ground Fault 16O relay AC/DC Modbus RS-485 & Modbus TCP (QCPort) 6O relay 10A AC/DC Modbus RS-485/ASCII, Modbus TCP &Profibus (QCPort) 8I / 8O 24VDC 8I / 8O 120VAC Unknown Range? 4I 2O 24VDC BI Ethernet IP (QCPort) Note: Profibus, Ethernet TCP & Ethernet IP!

  18. EATON - IT - Silver Bullets SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management IT strength is that they have Pulse Width Modulated coil control that utilizes minimum energy. This sound like a 3RT 24VDC low consumption coil. Power • No power monitoring, or cos-phi monitoring! • So what is the additional cost for the EATON solution to have power monitoring capability? Analog • What is your cost per point for a analog input of 0/4…20mA? • What is your cost per point for a analog output signal? Temperature • What is your cost for the EATON solution to add PTC or NTC monitoring; let alone RTD? Price • Cost more than the SIMOCODE pro, and yet it has less functionality! SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Schneider General Electric

  19. Schneider - Motor Logic Plus – I/O & Comm. SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management SIEMENS Rockwell EATON ML Plus Schneider General Electric Ground Fault Voltage Digital 0.01A… 18A 1O Relay (Form C) 600VAC Max

  20. Schneider - Motor Logic Plus - Expansion SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Schneider General Electric Communication Note: PowerLogic, Magelis or Solutions Software are needed for Modbus communication. DeviceNet Modbus RS 485 Note: No analog or temperature options!

  21. Schneider - Motor Logic Plus - Silver Bullets SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management Analog • What is your cost per point for a analog input of 0/4…20mA signal? • What is your cost per point for a analog output signal? Temperature • What is your cost for the Schneider solution to add PTC or NTC monitoring; let alone RTD? SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Schneider General Electric

  22. Schneider - Motor Logic Plus II – I/O & Comm. SIRIUS Motor Management SIMOCODE pro SIEMENS Rockwell Note: Solutions Software is needed for Modbus communication. EATON ML Plus II Schneider General Electric Temperature Measurements Ground Fault Communication Digital 4I 24VDC 0.1A… 10A 3O Relay (1 Form C) & (2 Form A) 1I PTC Modbus RS 485 Note: Input number one is used as the PTC input. It can only be either or!

  23. Schneider - Motor Logic Plus II - Expansion SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Schneider General Electric Note: Voltage has been designed out of the Motor Logic Plus II !!! Communication DeviceNet

  24. Schneider - Motor Logic Plus II - Silver Bullets SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management Power • No power monitoring, or Cos-phi monitoring! • So what is the additional cost for the Schneider solution to have power monitoring capability? Analog • What is your cost per point for a analog input of 0/4…20mA? • What is your cost per point for a analog output signal? Temperature • What is your cost for the Schneider solution to add PTC or NTC monitoring; let alone RTD? SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Schneider General Electric

  25. General Electric - MM2 - I/O & Communications SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management SIEMENS Panel Mount Option Rockwell Note: Modification MOD602 is needed for switching inputs with 24VDC! EATON Schneider MM2 General Electric Communication Digital 1O 110/240VAC 6I 120VAC Modbus RS 485

  26. General Electric - MM2 - Expansion SIRIUS Motor Management SIMOCODE pro Chassis Mount Option SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Schneider Separate CT is required for Ground Fault. General Electric Temperature Measurements Digital Ground Fault Voltage Analog 3O 110/240VAC 10I 120VAC 1I 4…20mA 1I PTC, NTC 0.1A… 1A 150VAC Max Note:Option 2 gives you power monitoring, however it is a single phase sample!

  27. General Electric - MM2 - Expansion SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management Analog • What is your cost per point for a analog output signal for GE’s solution? Power • The MM2 is only monitoring one leg of a three phase system? So if the customer has an unbalanced load in their factory then this solution is not given true power factor for all three phases! • No cos-phi monitoring? Price • I have been unable to find pricing on the MM2! SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Schneider General Electric

  28. General Electric - MM3 – I/O & Communications SIRIUS Motor Management SIMOCODE pro Panel Mount Option SIEMENS Rockwell These modifications are not listed in their literature any more!!! MM3 EATON Separate CT is required for Ground Fault. Note: Modification MOD602 is needed for switching inputs with 24VDC! Schneider General Electric Communication Ground Fault Digital Voltage 3O 110-240VAC 6I 120-240VAC 250VAC MAX 0.1A… 1A Modbus RS 485 Note: Voltage monitoring is still only single phase, now with two legs!

  29. General Electric - MM3 - Expansion SIRIUS Motor Management SIMOCODE pro Chassis Mount Option SIEMENS Rockwell These modifications are not listed in their literature any more!!! EATON Note: Modification MOD602 is needed for switching inputs with 24VDC! Schneider General Electric Temperature Measurements Digital Analog 3O 24VDC or 110/240VAC 1I / 1O 4…20mA 10I 120-240VAC 1I PTC, NTC

  30. General Electric - MM3 - Expansion SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management Power • The MM3 is only monitoring two legs of a three phase system! If the customer has an unbalanced load in their factory then this solution is not given true power factor for all three phases! • No cos-phi monitoring! Price • I have been unable to find pricing on the MM3! SIEMENS Rockwell EATON Schneider General Electric

  31. Protection Power Digital In Digital Out Analog In Analog Out Ground Fault Temperature In HMI Local Logic Communication Quick Competitive Comparison SIMOCODE pro SIRIUS Motor Management SIEMENS Rockwell SIMOCODE pro C SIMOCODE pro V 825-P E3 Plus IT Motor Logic Plus Motor Logic Plus II MM2 MM3 EATON Schneider General Electric

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