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Competitive Comparison For I/O & Communications. SIRIUS Motor Management. SIEMENS SIMOCODE pro C SIMOCODE pro V Rockwell 825-P E3 Plus EATON IT Schneider Motor Logic Plus Motor Logic Plus II General Electric MM2 MM3. SIEMENS. Rockwell. EATON. Schneider. General Electric.

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Competitive comparison for i o communications
Competitive Comparison For I/O & Communications

SIRIUS Motor Management

  • SIEMENS

    • SIMOCODE pro C

    • SIMOCODE pro V

  • Rockwell

    • 825-P

    • E3 Plus

  • EATON

    • IT

  • Schneider

    • Motor Logic Plus

    • Motor Logic Plus II

  • General Electric

    • MM2

    • MM3

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Schneider

General Electric


Siemens simocode pro i o communications
SIEMENS - SIMOCODE pro - I/O & Communications

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIEMENS

Note: Profibus communications are made available with the SIMOCODE ES Professional software for both the pro C and pro V.

Rockwell

EATON

pro C

pro V

Schneider

General Electric

Temperature

Measurements

Communication

Digital

Earth Fault

4I 24VDC

3O 24VDC or 110-240V AC/DC MONO

Internal Monitoring

1I PTC Thermistor

Profibus DP


Siemens simocode pro v expansion
SIEMENS - SIMOCODE pro V - Expansion

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIMOCODE pro

SIEMENS

Note: Expansion modules for the pro V only.

Rockwell

EATON

Separate CT is required for Earth Fault.

Schneider

Digital

General Electric

Temperature

Measurements

4I / 2O 24VDC MONO

Voltage

Earth Fault

4I / 2O 110-240V AC/DC MONO

Analog

4I / 2O 24VDC BI

4I / 2O 110-240V AC/DC BI

690VAC Max

3I RTD, PTC, NTC KTY

0.3A, 0.5A & 1A

2I / 1O 0/4 …20mA

Note: Maximum of five expansion modules.


Siemens simocode pro selling points

SIMOCODE pro C

Offers the customer the most cost effective motor management solution.

Comes standard with onboard Profibus communications

Powerful, open and rugged bus system with 126 nodes per.

High speed 12Mbit/s

Standardized components across manufactures.

Maximum optical distance 90km.

Maximum electrical distance 9.6km.

Maximum telegram size 244bytes

Offers the customer the most functionality at the lowest cost.

Digital I/O

Temp PTC In

Internal Earth Fault

Local Logic

Diagnostics & Monitoring

SIMOCODE pro V

Offers the customer a high degree of functionality at the lowest cost.

Power Monitoring

RTD Temp.

0/4…20mA Analog Input/Output

As low as 0.3A GF

Scalability & Flexibility

Modularity with small foot print.

SIMOCODE ES Professional

Offers the customer an user friendly parameterization software interface.

Graphical interface offers customer visual representation of functions.

Object manager offers customer seamless integration into STEP 7.

PCS 7 function block library offers customer seamless integration into PCS 7 process control system.

SIEMENS - SIMOCODE pro - Selling Points

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Schneider

General Electric


Rockwell 825 p i o communications

ProComm Plus

Relay/Gold

Microsoft HyperTerminal

SmartCom

CROSSTALK

Rockwell - 825-P - I/O & Communications

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIMOCODE pro

Note: Emulation programs that can communicate with 825-P.

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

825-P

Schneider

General Electric

Temperature

Measurements

Communication

Digital

6I PTC max. sensors in series

2I 24V AC/DC

3O 110-240VAC

RS 232 Serial ASCII


Rockwell 825 p expansion
Rockwell - 825-P - Expansion

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIMOCODE pro

Note: RSNetWorx is needed for DeviceNet communication.

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Separate CT is required for Ground Fault.

Schneider

Digital

&

Analog

General Electric

Communication

Temperature

Measurements

Ground Fault

3I 24V AC/DC 4O 110-240VAC 1O 0/4…20mA

Voltage

DeviceNet

w/ DeviceLogix

3I 110-240V AC/DC 4O 110-240VAC 1O 0/4…20mA

0.01A… 25A

12I RTD 3Wire

300VAC Max

Modbus RTU

Note: Maximum of three option card slots.


Rockwell 825 p silver bullets
Rockwell - 825-P - Silver Bullets

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

The 825-P strength is that it offers a maximum amount of functionality that anyone could want, but at what cost?

Price

  • The list price for the basic unit, and the CT module is $3,500.

  • The list price for this solution loaded is $6,400.

  • At this price range this unit is only suited for large motor control.

    Analog Out

  • What is your cost per point for a single analog output 0/4…20mA?

    Size

  • This unit is too large to fit into a MCC bucket.

  • Regardless of the size Rockwell has the standard Amp range set to 0.5…630A.

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Schneider

General Electric


Rockwell e3 plus i o communications
Rockwell - E3 Plus - I/O & Communications

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIMOCODE pro

Note: Control circuit 24VDC is supplied via DeviceNet!!!

If DeviceNet goes down so does the E3 Plus!!!

SIEMENS

Rockwell

Note: RSNetWorx is needed for DeviceNet communication.

EATON

Schneider

E3 Plus

General Electric

Temperature

Measurements

Communication

Digital

4I 24VDC

6I PTC max. sensors in series

DeviceNet

w/ DeviceLogix

2O 24VDC or 110-240VAC

Note: No voltage or analog options!


Rockwell e3 plus expansion
Rockwell - E3 Plus - Expansion

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Separate CT is required for Ground Fault.

Schneider

General Electric

Ground Fault

Digital

4I 110-240V AC

1A…5A

Note: Maximum of one AC input module!


Rockwell e3 plus expansion1
Rockwell - E3 Plus - Expansion

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

This handheld programmer can be operated 1m, and up to 10m away.

Also this unit can be used as the operator panel, and panel mounted.

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Schneider

Programming and Control Terminal

General Electric

This gives the E3 Plus the ability to retrofit other Rockwell systems and their competitors!

Also Rockwell offers copper terminal lugs which can be used in the same manner!

DIN Rail/Panel Adapter


Rockwell bulletin 193 ec january 2005
Rockwell - Bulletin 193-EC January 2005

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

Inputs are rated 24V DC and are current sinking. Power for the inputs is sourced from the DeviceNet network connection with convenient customer terminations at control terminal 5 and 6.

SIEMENS

Rockwell

Rated Supply Voltage (Us) 24V DC (supply via DeviceNet connection)

EATON

Schneider

General Electric

Input Ratings Supply Voltage 24V DC +or- 10% (provided by E3)

messages (series B only)


Rockwell bulletin 193 ec january 20051
Rockwell - Bulletin 193-EC January 2005

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Schneider

General Electric


Rockwell e3 plus silver bullets
Rockwell - E3 Plus - Silver Bullets

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

Control Power is supplied via DeviceNet!!!

  • Neither the E3 Plus manual or the Bulletin 193-EC January 2005 disprove this control power supply problem.

  • When DeviceNet goes down so does the E3 Plus!!!

    Power

  • No power monitoring, or Cos-phi monitoring!

  • What is the additional cost for the Rockwell solution to have power monitoring?

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Schneider

General Electric


Rockwell e3 plus sliver bullets
Rockwell - E3 Plus - Sliver Bullets

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

Analog

  • What is your cost per point for a analog input of 0/4…20mA?

  • What is your cost per point for a analog output signal?

    Price

  • Cost more than the SIMOCODE pro, and yet it has less functionality!

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Schneider

General Electric


Rockwell e3 plus communication limitation
Rockwell - E3 Plus Communication Limitation!

Current Monitor Cont.

  • Overload

  • L1 % FLA

  • L2 % FLA

  • L3 % FLA

  • AVG % FLA

  • % Therm Utilized

  • GF Current

  • Current Imbal.

    Diagnostic Para.

  • Time to Trip

  • Time to Reset

  • Trip Status

  • Warning Status

  • Trip Log 0

  • Trip Log 1

  • Trip Log 2

  • Trip Log 3

  • Trip Log 4

  • Device Status

    Programmable Para.

  • Trip Enable

  • Warning Enable

  • 1P/3P

  • FLA

  • Trip Class

  • CT Ratio

  • In 1

Program Para. Cont.

  • In 2

  • In 3

  • In 4

  • 2-Speed

  • 2-Speed FLA

  • GF Trip Inhibit

  • Trip Reset

  • Program Lock

  • Set to Defaults

  • Auto Baud

  • NonVol Baud Rate

  • COS Mask

  • Output Assy

  • Input Assy

  • Assy Word 0

  • Assy Word 1

  • Assy Word 2

  • Assy Word 3

  • Comm Override

  • Network Override

  • Net Outputs

  • Net Out COS Mask

  • OutA Pr Flt State

  • OutA Pr Flt Value

  • OutA Dn Flt S

  • OutA Dn Flt V

  • OutA Dn Idl S

Program. Para. Cont.

  • OutA Dn Idl V

  • OutB Pr Flt State

  • OutB Pr Flt Value

  • OutB Dn Flt S

  • OutB Dn Flt V

  • OutB Dn Idl S

  • OutB Dn Idl S

  • OutB Dn Idl V

    Key Trip

  • RL = Reset Level

  • I = Inhibit Time

  • D = Trip Delay

  • L = Trip Level

    Key Warning

  • L = Warning Level

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

Trip Summary

  • Overload RL

  • Phase Loss I/D

  • Ground Fault I/D/L

  • Stall T/L

  • Jam I/D/L

  • Underload T/D/L

  • PTC R

  • Current Imbal. I/D/L

  • Comm Fault

  • Comm Idle

  • Remote Trip

    Warning Summary

  • Overload L

  • Phase Loss

  • Ground Fault L

  • Stall

  • Jam L

  • Underload L

  • PTC

  • Current Imbal. L

  • Comm Fault

  • Comm Idle

    Current Monitor

  • L1 Current

  • L2 Current

  • L3 Current

  • Average Current

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Schneider

General Electric


Eaton it i o communications
EATON - IT – I/O & Communications

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Note: No voltage, temperature, analog options!!!

Schneider

General Electric

However…

IT

Digital

4I 24VDC & 1O relay


Eaton it expansion
EATON - IT - Expansion

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIMOCODE pro

Digital

8I 24VDC

SIEMENS

Separate CT is required for Ground Fault.

16I 24VDC

Rockwell

8O 24VDC

Communication

16O 24VDC

EATON

8I 120VAC

Schneider

16I 120VAC

8O 120VAC triac

General Electric

16O 120VAC triac

DeviceNet (DSNAP)

8O relay AC/DC

DeviceNet (QCPort)

Ground Fault

16O relay AC/DC

Modbus RS-485 & Modbus TCP (QCPort)

6O relay 10A AC/DC

Modbus RS-485/ASCII, Modbus TCP &Profibus (QCPort)

8I / 8O 24VDC

8I / 8O 120VAC

Unknown Range?

4I 2O 24VDC BI

Ethernet IP (QCPort)

Note: Profibus, Ethernet TCP & Ethernet IP!


Eaton it silver bullets
EATON - IT - Silver Bullets

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

IT strength is that they have Pulse Width Modulated coil control that utilizes minimum energy. This sound like a 3RT 24VDC low consumption coil.

Power

  • No power monitoring, or cos-phi monitoring!

  • So what is the additional cost for the EATON solution to have power monitoring capability?

    Analog

  • What is your cost per point for a analog input of 0/4…20mA?

  • What is your cost per point for a analog output signal?

    Temperature

  • What is your cost for the EATON solution to add PTC or NTC monitoring; let alone RTD?

    Price

  • Cost more than the SIMOCODE pro, and yet it has less functionality!

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Schneider

General Electric


Schneider motor logic plus i o comm
Schneider - Motor Logic Plus – I/O & Comm.

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

ML Plus

Schneider

General Electric

Ground Fault

Voltage

Digital

0.01A… 18A

1O Relay (Form C)

600VAC Max


Schneider motor logic plus expansion
Schneider - Motor Logic Plus - Expansion

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Schneider

General Electric

Communication

Note: PowerLogic, Magelis or Solutions Software are needed for Modbus communication.

DeviceNet

Modbus RS 485

Note: No analog or temperature options!


Schneider motor logic plus silver bullets
Schneider - Motor Logic Plus - Silver Bullets

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

Analog

  • What is your cost per point for a analog input of 0/4…20mA signal?

  • What is your cost per point for a analog output signal?

    Temperature

  • What is your cost for the Schneider solution to add PTC or NTC monitoring; let alone RTD?

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Schneider

General Electric


Schneider motor logic plus ii i o comm
Schneider - Motor Logic Plus II – I/O & Comm.

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIMOCODE pro

SIEMENS

Rockwell

Note: Solutions Software is needed for Modbus communication.

EATON

ML Plus II

Schneider

General Electric

Temperature

Measurements

Ground Fault

Communication

Digital

4I 24VDC

0.1A… 10A

3O Relay (1 Form C) & (2 Form A)

1I PTC

Modbus RS 485

Note: Input number one is used as the PTC input. It can only be either or!


Schneider motor logic plus ii expansion
Schneider - Motor Logic Plus II - Expansion

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Schneider

General Electric

Note: Voltage has been designed out of the Motor Logic Plus II !!!

Communication

DeviceNet


Schneider motor logic plus ii silver bullets
Schneider - Motor Logic Plus II - Silver Bullets

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

Power

  • No power monitoring, or Cos-phi monitoring!

  • So what is the additional cost for the Schneider solution to have power monitoring capability?

    Analog

  • What is your cost per point for a analog input of 0/4…20mA?

  • What is your cost per point for a analog output signal?

    Temperature

  • What is your cost for the Schneider solution to add PTC or NTC monitoring; let alone RTD?

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Schneider

General Electric


General electric mm2 i o communications
General Electric - MM2 - I/O & Communications

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIEMENS

Panel Mount Option

Rockwell

Note: Modification MOD602 is needed for switching inputs with 24VDC!

EATON

Schneider

MM2

General Electric

Communication

Digital

1O 110/240VAC

6I 120VAC

Modbus RS 485


General electric mm2 expansion
General Electric - MM2 - Expansion

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIMOCODE pro

Chassis Mount Option

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Schneider

Separate CT is required for Ground Fault.

General Electric

Temperature

Measurements

Digital

Ground Fault

Voltage

Analog

3O 110/240VAC

10I 120VAC

1I 4…20mA

1I PTC, NTC

0.1A… 1A

150VAC Max

Note:Option 2 gives you power monitoring, however it is a single phase sample!


General electric mm2 expansion1
General Electric - MM2 - Expansion

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

Analog

  • What is your cost per point for a analog output signal for GE’s solution?

    Power

  • The MM2 is only monitoring one leg of a three phase system? So if the customer has an unbalanced load in their factory then this solution is not given true power factor for all three phases!

  • No cos-phi monitoring?

    Price

  • I have been unable to find pricing on the MM2!

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Schneider

General Electric


General electric mm3 i o communications
General Electric - MM3 – I/O & Communications

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIMOCODE pro

Panel Mount Option

SIEMENS

Rockwell

These modifications are not listed in their literature any more!!!

MM3

EATON

Separate CT is required for Ground Fault.

Note: Modification MOD602 is needed for switching inputs with 24VDC!

Schneider

General Electric

Communication

Ground Fault

Digital

Voltage

3O 110-240VAC

6I 120-240VAC

250VAC MAX

0.1A… 1A

Modbus RS 485

Note: Voltage monitoring is still only single phase, now with two legs!


General electric mm3 expansion
General Electric - MM3 - Expansion

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIMOCODE pro

Chassis Mount Option

SIEMENS

Rockwell

These modifications are not listed in their literature any more!!!

EATON

Note: Modification MOD602 is needed for switching inputs with 24VDC!

Schneider

General Electric

Temperature

Measurements

Digital

Analog

3O 24VDC or 110/240VAC

1I / 1O 4…20mA

10I 120-240VAC

1I PTC, NTC


General electric mm3 expansion1
General Electric - MM3 - Expansion

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

Power

  • The MM3 is only monitoring two legs of a three phase system! If the customer has an unbalanced load in their factory then this solution is not given true power factor for all three phases!

  • No cos-phi monitoring!

    Price

  • I have been unable to find pricing on the MM3!

SIEMENS

Rockwell

EATON

Schneider

General Electric


Quick competitive comparison

Protection

Power

Digital In

Digital Out

Analog In

Analog Out

Ground Fault

Temperature In

HMI

Local Logic

Communication

Quick Competitive Comparison

SIMOCODE pro

SIRIUS Motor Management

SIEMENS

Rockwell

SIMOCODE pro C

SIMOCODE pro V

825-P

E3 Plus

IT

Motor Logic Plus

Motor Logic Plus II

MM2

MM3

EATON

Schneider

General Electric


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