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Aristophanes and Classical Greek Comedy

Aristophanes and Classical Greek Comedy. November 15 th -19 th , 2007. The Genres of Comedy. Old Comedy – Middle Comedy – New Comedy Old Comedy = Comic dram of the fifth and early fourth centuries BCE Aristophanes, Eupolis, Cratinus. Distinction Between Old, Middle, and New Comedy.

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Aristophanes and Classical Greek Comedy

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  1. Aristophanes and Classical Greek Comedy November 15th-19th, 2007

  2. The Genres of Comedy • Old Comedy – Middle Comedy – New Comedy • Old Comedy = Comic dram of the fifth and early fourth centuries BCE • Aristophanes, Eupolis, Cratinus

  3. Distinction Between Old, Middle, and New Comedy • Old Comedy: 5th century BCE, highly political, centered on the concerns of the polis, chorus plays prominent role • Middle Comedy: Early 4th century BCE, less political, diminished chorus • New Comedy: Late 4th century BCE, non-political, concerned with social relations, progenitor of all subsequent comedy

  4. General Characteristics of Comedy • Absence of mythological themes • Outrageous/Fantastic plan or solution to a crisis • Slapstick • Scatological humor • Sexual innuendo • Inversion of or challenge to social/political order • Political satire (Old Comedy)

  5. Producing Comedies in Ancient Greece • Festivals of Dionysus (The Great Dionysia, The Lenaea) • Staged together with tragedies – 3 tragedies + satyr play in the morning; 1 comedy in the afternoon – over 3 consecutive days • Panels of judges awarded 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, prize for the comedies

  6. Organization of Comedy • 4 talking actors at a time • All males • Grotesque masks – often mocking real people • Padded costumes for slapstick • Enormous leather phallus • 24 member chorus: performs choral song & dance, interact with actors

  7. Narrative Pattern • Problem/Crisis • Ridiculous Solution • Putting Plans into Action • Comic Results

  8. Components of Greek Comedy • Prologos: Opens the play – introduces the subject and the crisis • Parodos: Follows the prologos – chorus enters singing alternating verses (strophe – antistrophe) – provides background to the events of the play • Parabasis: Long passage of the chorus; an aside to the audience; views of the playwright presented • Episodos: Action between characters in the play • Agon: Competition/debate between characters in the play • Exodos: The final rejoicing following the last episode

  9. Life and Work of Aristophanes • 447 BCE – ca. 386-380 BCE • B. in Athens • Little known of his personal life • Among the Athenian social and political elite – considered the greatest comic poet • Wrote 40 plays – 11 survive (Archarnians – 425 BCE, Knights – 424 BCE, Clouds – 423 BCE, Wasps – 422 BCE, Peace – 421 BCE, Birds – 414 BCE, Lysistrata – 411 BCE, Women at the Thesmophoria – 411 BCE, Frogs 405 BCE, Ecclesiazusae – 391 BCE, Plutus – 388 BCE) • 6 – 1st prizes, 4 – 2nd prizes, 2 – 3rd prizes • Charged by Cleon for slandering Athenian politicians before Athens’ allies (Babylonians – 426 BCE) – Aristophanes responded with Knights (424 BCE) • Cleon, Socrates, and Euripides regular objects of satirical attack

  10. Political Views of a Political Poet • Difficult to determine – ambiguous • Sometimes democratic – sometimes anti-democratic • Nostalgic for the moderate Athenian democracy of the Persian Wars (i.e. 490-479 BCE) • Radical democracy (i.e. from 460 BCE) led to the deterioration of Athenian morals and character (i.e. Peloponnesian War, Cleon, Socrates; immoral demagogues leading stupid people to their ruin) • Radical democracy – demagoguery – Sophists – War interconnected

  11. The Clouds • Produced in 423 BCE • Revised version (incomplete) in 419-17 BCE – Revised version never staged • Aimed at: 1. Both the aristocratic class AND the uneducated (and easily led astray) demos, 2.The sophistic movement in Athens • Perversion of the democracy

  12. Summary Outline • Strepsiades’ anxiety over Phedippides’ addiction to horses and horse racing and the debts Phedippides has run up • Strepsiades tries to persuade his son to study under Socrates (i.e. to learn how to make the wrong argument the right one) • Strepsiades fails to convince his son and enrolls in Socrates’ “thinkery” himself • Socrates introduces Sterpsiades to new gods, the clouds – but Strepsiades is too stupid to learn his lessons • Clouds persuade Strepsiades to bring his son to the thinkery • Strepsiades brings Phedippides to the thinkery – but Socrates will not take him as a student • Just Speech and Unjust Speech emerge offering to teach Phedippides – debate for the right to do so – Unjust speech wins • Phedippides instructed in Sophistry by Unjust Speech • Phedippides returns home as a well educated Sophist • Creditors come for Strepsiades – they are refuted by Strepsiades through inane Sophistic arguments • Phedippides beats his father – argues (inanely) that it is just to beat one’s mother and father • Strepsiades burns down the Thinkery

  13. Principal Themes in The Clouds • Aristocratic Extravagance vs. Frugality/Sobriety of the ordinary Athenian • Decay of Manners • Corruption of Democracy • Moral Relativism and its Dangers • Atheism

  14. The Aristocratic Pheidippides • “But I can’t sleep, wretched me, I’m bitten – by expenses and stables and my debts because of this son of mine. He with his long hair rides horses and drives a chariot, and dreams of horses, while I am ruined….” (13-16) • “Oh, would that the matchmaker might perish evilly, she who stirred me up to marry your mother! Mine was a rustic life, most pleasant: squalid, unswept, lying down at random, teeming with bees and sheep and olive-cakes. Then I married a niece of Megacles the son of Megacles. I was a rustic, she from the town: classy, luxurious, aristocratic.” (40-48)

  15. Aristocratic Values vs. The Common Man • “She would take this son of ours and fondle him, saying, ‘When you are big enough to drive a chariot to the city, like Megacles, wearing a festal robe…’ But I would say, ‘Rather, when you bring the goats away from the rocky ground, like your father, clad in leather…’ But he wasn’t persuaded by my speeches at all: he’s been pouring out horse-itis upon my money.” (69-74)

  16. The Corruption of Simple Men • “That is a thinkery of wise souls. In there dwell men who by speaking persuade one that the heaven is a stove and that it is around us, and we are charcoals. If someone gives them money, they teach him how to win both just and unjust causes by speaking.” (94-98)

  17. The Misuses of Sophistic Skills • Strep: “O ladies, I beg of you then this one very little thing: to be the best speaker of the Greeks by a hundred stadia.” • Chorus: “This you will have from us, so that henceforth, from now on no one will win more proposals in the Assembly of the people than you.” • Strep: “Don’t speak to me of great proposals. For I have no desire for them, but only to twist justice enough to give my creditors the slip.” • Chorus: “Then you’ll get what you yearn for since you have no desire for great things.” (429-35)

  18. Knowledge That Is, At Best, Useless • Student: “Chaerephon from Sphettos was asking him which notion he held: do gnats hum through their mouth or through their behind?” • Strep: “What then did he say about the gnat?” • Student: “He declared that the gnat’s intestine is narrow, and because it is slender, the breath goes violently straight to its behind. There the anus, hollow where it lies near the narrow part, resounds from the violence of the wind.” • Strep: “The the gnat’s anus is a trumpet. O thrice-blessed for intestinal insight! How easily would a defendant escape the penalty if he thoroughly knew the intestine of the gnat.” (156-168)

  19. Knowledge That Is, At Worst, Dangerous • Pheid: “How pleasant it is to consort with novel and shrewd matters and to be able to look down on the established laws! For I, when I was applying my mind to horsemanship alone, couldn’t even say three phrases before I went wrong. But now, he himself has made me stop these things and I am associating with subtle notions and speeches and ponderings, I do suppose that I will teach him that it is just to punish one’s father.” • Strep: “Then keep on with your horses, by Zeus, since it is better for me to nurture a four-horse team than to be beaten and battered.” (1399-1407) • Pheid: “I’ll beat my mother too, just as I did you.” • Strep: “What are you saying? What are you saying? This other one is a still greater evil!” • Pheid: “But what if I defeat you by means of the weaker speech, saying that one should beat one’s mother? (1442-1446)

  20. Moral Relativism • Pheid: “Wasn’t he who first set down this law a man like you and me, and didn’t he persuade those of long ago by speaking? Is it any less allowable for me too, then, to set down in turn for the future a novel law for sons to beat their fathers in return? As for the blows we got before the law is set down, we dismiss them, and we give them our past thrashings gratis. Consider the chickens and the other beasts: they defend themselves against their fathers. Yet how do they differ from us, except that they do not write decrees?” (1421-29)

  21. Sophists and AtheistsDon’t Fear The Gods • Strep: “Come now, by the Earth, isn’t Olympian Zeus a god for us?” • Soc: “What Zeus! Don’t babble! Zeus doesn’t even exist” (365-7) • Soc: “You fool, smelling of the age of Kronos, you’re out of date. If in fact he strikes perjurers, then how is it that he didn’t burn up Simon or Cleonymous or Theorus? They are vehement perjurers. But he strikes his own temple and Sunium, the cape of Athens, and tall oak trees. Why? An oak, at least, doesn’t perjure itself.” (398-401)

  22. Strepsiades’ Moment of Enlightenment: The Exodos • “Oh me! What derangement! How mad I was, when I even through out the gods because of Socrates! But dear Hermes, in no way be angry with me and don’t batter me, but forgive me for being out of my mind with prating. And become my fellow counselor: should I prosecute them with an indictment, or what seems fitting to you? You advise me correctly in not letting me stitch up a lawsuit, but rather to set the house of the praters on fire as quickly as possible.” (1476-84)

  23. Using Comedy As Historical Evidence • Must understand that it is comedy – must get the joke • The political/ideological outlook expressed is that of the author and not necessarily that of the audience • Good to focus on elements that are not always central to the narrative

  24. Aspects of Classical Athenian Society Reflected in The Clouds • Gender roles • Parental roles • Sexuality • Religious sensibilities

  25. Gender RolesWomen and Domesticity • “When I married her, I lay down together with her, I smelling of new wine, fig crates, wool, abundance, she in turn of perfume, saffron, kisses with the tongue, expenses, gluttony, Colias, Genetyllis. But I certainly won’t say she was idle; she did weave. And I would show her this cloak as an occasion and say, ‘Woman, you weave too closely.’” (49-55)

  26. Parents and Children • Children must respect their elders • Children were disciplined physically • Pheid:”I’ll pursue the point of my speech where you interrupted me, and first I will ask you this: did you beat me when I was a boy?” • Strep: “Yes, I did; I was well-intentioned and concerned for you” (1407-9)

  27. Education, Decorum, and Sexuality • Just: “I will speak then of ancient education as it was established when I was flourishing, speaking the just things, and when moderation was flourishing. First, it was needful that no one hear a boy muttering a sound; next, that those from the same neighborhood walk on the streets here in good order to the cithara teacher’s, lightly clad, in a group, even if the snow came down like barley-meal. Next, again, he used to teach them to learn a song by heart (standing with their thighs apart), “Pallas, Terrible Sacker of Cities” or “A Far Reaching Shout,” pitched to the harmony that their fathers handed down. If anyone was ribald or added any modulation of the sort they use nowadays (those difficult modulations of Phrynis), he would be thrashed and beaten with many blows, as one who would efface the Muses. It was needful for the boys to keep their thighs covered while sitting at the gymnastic trainer’s, so as to show nothing cruel to those outside. Next, again, when they stood up, they had to smooth the sand back again and be mindful not to leave behind an image of puberty for their lovers. At that time no boy would anoint himself below the navel, so that the dew and down bloomed on their private parts as on fruit. Nor would he make up a soft voice and go to his lover, he himself pandering himself with his eyes. Nor was it allowed him at dinner to help himself to the radishes, nor snatch the dill or parsley from the elders, nor to eat relishes, nor giggle, nor to cross his legs.” (971-83)

  28. Discussion Questions • How does the depiction of Socrates in The Clouds relate to his depiction in The Apology? • Is the Aristophanes’ depiction of Socrates fair? • How does Socrates train Strepsiades? Why does Aristophanes describe the education process in this way? • Who comprises the chorus and why? • Do you think this play had a meaningful social impact? • How are the Oresteia and the Clouds related? • What must we be aware of when using comedy as a piece of historical evidence? • What is Aristophanes’ attitude toward democracy? • Is Clouds expressly and explicitly concerned with politics? • Do any of the themes in the play have relevance today?

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