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Ta Panta. Greg Deuble National Restoration Fellowship Conference 2009. From Olam .... time past. Gen 6:4Mighty men which were of old. Josh 24:2 From ancient times your fathers lived beyond the river. I Sam 27:8 They were inhabitants of the land from ancient times.

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Ta panta

Ta Panta

Greg Deuble

National Restoration Fellowship Conference 2009

From olam time past

From Olam.... time past

  • Gen 6:4Mighty men which were of old.

  • Josh 24:2From ancient times your fathers lived beyond the river.

  • I Sam 27:8 They were inhabitants of the land from ancient times.

  • Jer 5:15 It is an ancient nation.

  • Is 42:14 I have kept silent for a long time.

  • Ps 90:2 From everlasting to everlasting you are God.

To olam future time of differing lengths

To Olam…. Future time of differing lengths

  • Josh 8:28 Joshua burnt Ai and made it a heap for ever.

  • Jonah 2:6The earth with her bars was about me for ever.

  • Ex 21:6His master shall bore his ear through with an awl;

    and he shall serve him for ever.

    Ps 90:2 From everlasting to everlasting You are God.

Aion and aionios


  • From the Aions …Times past …

  • Lk 1:70 As He said through His holy prophets of long ago.

  • Eph 3:9The mystery which for ages has been hidden in God.

  • Col 1:26The mystery which has been hidden from the past ages.

To the aions looking forward

TO THE AIONS…Looking Forward

  • Matt 6:13Yours is the kingdom … for ever.

  • Lk 1:55To Abraham and his descendants for ever.

  • John 13:8You will never wash my feet.

  • 1 Cor. 8:13I will never eat meat again.

  • Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday & today & forever.

  • Rev 14:11The smoke of their torment goes up for ever & ever.

Inconsistent translation

Inconsistent Translation

  • 1. ‘Everlasting’ describes what is not ‘forever.’

  • Gen 49:26 & Deut 33:15 … the everlasting hills.

  • Is 40:4 Every mountain … shall be made low.

  • Is 54:10For the mountains may be removed …

  • Amos 9:13And all the hills will be dissolved.

Contradictory expressions

Contradictory Expressions

  • 2. ‘The end of the world’ … ‘World without end.’

  • Is 45:17World without end.

  • Eph 3:21World without end.

  • Matt 24:3The end of the world.

Jesus reign forever or until

Jesus’ Reign Forever or ‘Until’?

  • Rev. 11:15 He (Jesus) shall reign forever and ever.

  • 1Cor 15:25 For he must reign until he has put all enemies …

G campbell morgan


  • “Let me say to Bible students that we must be very careful how we use the word ‘eternity.’ We have fallen into great error in our constant use of that word. There is no word in the whole Book of God corresponding with our ‘eternal’ which as commonly used among us means absolutely without end. The strongest Scripture word used with reference to the existence of God is – ‘unto the ages of the ages,’ which does not literally mean eternally.” [God’s Methods With Men p. 185-6 )

Marvin vincent

Marvin Vincent

  • [Aionian] is a period of time of longer or shorter duration, having a beginning and an end, and complete in itself … The word always carries the notion of time, and not of eternity. It always means a period of time. Otherwise it would be impossible to account for the plural, or for such qualifying expressions as this age, or the age to come. It does not mean something endless or everlasting … The adjective … in like manner carries the idea of time. Neither the noun nor the adjective, in themselves, carry the sense of endless or everlasting … Words which are habitually applied to things temporal or material cannot carry in themselves the sense of endlessness…

Marvin vincent1

Marvin Vincent

  • …Even when applied to God, we are not forced to render (the word) everlasting. Of course the life of God is endless; but the question is whether, in describing God (by this Greek word), it was intended to describe the duration of His being, or whether some different and larger idea was not contemplated. (Word Studies in the New Testament in notes on 2 Thess 1:9)

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