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Estimation of the number of former Yugoslavs by present borders Eric Schulte Nordholt Senior researcher and project leader of the Census Statistics Netherlands Division Social and Spatial Statistics Department Support and Development Section Research and Development [email protected]

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Estimation of the number of former Yugoslavs by present borders

Eric Schulte Nordholt

Senior researcher and project leader of the Census

Statistics Netherlands

Division Social and Spatial Statistics

Department Support and Development

Section Research and Development

[email protected]

UNECE-Eurostat Meeting on Population and Housing Censuses in Geneva

13-15 May 2008


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  • Introduction

  • Report of the EGM on register-based censuses

  • Place of birth as source of information

  • Former Yugoslavia

  • Other countries


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  • UNECE-Eurostat Meeting on Population and Housing Censuses in Astana, 4-6 June 2007

  • UNECE-Eurostat Expert Group Meeting on the Implementation of the CES Census Recommendations for Register-Based Censuses in Astana, 7-8 June 2007

  • Israelian delegation visited Statistics Netherlands (November 2007) and Statistics Finland (December 2007)

  • Regular contacts within the Nordic countries and between the Netherlands and the Nordic countries


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Report of the EGM on register-based censuses borders

  • Difficult-to-measure topics for register countries

  • Usual residence (also discussed in the Working Group on Demography and Census in Luxembourg in March 2008)

  • Cohabitation

  • Ethnicity / country or ethnic background

  • Activity status (also discussed in the Working Group on Demography and Census in Luxembourg in March 2008)

  • Unemployment according to the ILO definition

  • Country of birth according to new boundaries for immigrants of former Yugoslavia


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  • The problem:

  • Population Registers do not contain the country of birth by present borders

  • Solution in a traditional Census:

  • Ask further if the country of birth mentioned does no longer exist (neglect border changes?)

  • Solution in a register-based Census:

  • Make use of the place of birth to find the country of birth by present borders


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Former Yugoslavia (1) borders

  • Now we distinguish seven parts:

  • Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia (excl. Kosovo), Kosovo, Montenegro and Macedonia

  • Recent webmagazine about some 8,500 Kosovars in the Netherlands

  • http://www.cbs.nl/en-GB/menu/themas/bevolking/publicaties/artikelen/archief/2008/2008-2411-wm.htm

  • About 75,500 people in the Netherlands are former Yugoslavs and their children

  • Two main groups:

  • Labour immigrants in the seventies and eighties

  • Refugees in the nineties


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Former Yugoslavia (2) borders

  • We know from the Dutch Population Register:

  • Where they were born

  • Where their parents were born (ethnic background)

  • Classify them by present borders

  • Only for those born before the present countries emerged

  • Only for those from frequently occurring places of birth

  • Ask experts (e.g. people born in Yugoslavia)

  • Impute the remaining missing part


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Former Yugoslavia (3) borders

  • Complications in the classification process:

  • Different ways of writing the same place of birth

  • Places of birth with the same name

  • How to impute properly?

  • Imputation options:

  • All records based on the population distribution over the parts of former Yugoslavia (simple but poor quality)

  • The remaining missing part based on the distribution of the classified places of birth in the same period of immigration (the chosen option)



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  • Estimating the numbers from other former countries by present borders:

  • Czechoslovakia

  • Soviet Union

  • Similar techniques applied for regional distributions in main countries of immigrants:

  • Morocco

  • Turkey

  • Surinam

  • Dutch Antilles and Aruba


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Time for questions and discussion


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