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IEEE 802.18 RR-TAG Teleconference Agenda

IEEE 802.18 RR-TAG Teleconference Agenda. Dates: 23 August 18. Authors:. Call to Order / Administrative Items. Officers for the RR-TAG / IEEE 802.18: Chair is Jay Holcomb (Itron) Vice-chair is open Secretary is Allan Zhu (Huawei)

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  1. IEEE 802.18 RR-TAGTeleconference Agenda • Dates: 23 August 18 Authors: Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  2. Call to Order / Administrative Items • Officers for the RR-TAG / IEEE 802.18: • Chair is Jay Holcomb (Itron) • Vice-chair is open • Secretary is Allan Zhu (Huawei) • Number of voters: 40 (9 on EC); Nearly Voter: 1; Aspirant members: 9 • With teleconferences approval on 08 March 2018, quorum is met. After aug31, after 12 July 2018. • A quorum is met since this meeting was announced more then 45 days ago. • IEEE 802 Required notices: • Affiliation FAQ - http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html • > Be sure to announce you name, affiliation, employer and clients the first time you speak. • Anti-Trust FAQ - http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf • Ethics - https://www.ieee.org/about/corporate/governance/p7-8.html • IEEE 802 WG Policies and Procedures - http://www.ieee802.org/devdocs.shtml • The 4 administration slides, reminder from your WG opening plenary  new 02jan18 • (note: call for essential patents is n/a, as the RR-TAG does not do standards) Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  3. Jay Holcomb (Itron) Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings • All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. • Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. • Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. • Relative costs of different technical approaches that include relative costs of patent licensing terms may be discussed in standards development meetings. • Technical considerations remain the primary focus • Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. • Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. • Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- For more details, see IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and Antitrust and Competition Policy: What You Need to Know at http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/antitrust.pdf

  4. Participation in IEEE 802 Meetings • Participation in any IEEE 802 meeting (Sponsor, Sponsor subgroup, Working Group, Working Group subgroup, etc.) is on an individual basis • Participants in the IEEE standards development individual process shall act based on their qualifications and experience. (https://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf section 5.2.1) • IEEE 802 Working Group membership is by individual; “Working Group members shall participate in the consensus process in a manner consistent with their professional expert opinion as individuals, and not as organizational representatives”. (subclause 4.2.1 “Establishment”, of the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures) • Participants have an obligation to act and vote as an individual and not under the direction of any other individual or group. A Participant’s obligation to act and vote as an individual applies in all cases, regardless of any external commitments, agreements, contracts, or orders. • Participants shall not direct the actions or votes of any other member of an IEEE 802 Working Group or retaliate against any other member for their actions or votes within IEEE 802 Working Group meetings, see https://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf section 5.2.1.3 and the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures, subclause 3.4.1 “Chair”, list item x. • By participating in IEEE 802 meetings, you accept these requirements. If you do not agree to these policies then you shall not participate. (and please leave the call.) Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  5. Agenda • Discussion items, few more details: • EU Items • ETSI, CEPT, general items. • This week the EC consultant and ECC PT1 on IMT • Ofcom-consultation-on-preparations-for-wrc-19 • Approve final version • Due 13 Sept. • IEEE EU Spectrum Management Statement • Is response ready to email? • Google waiver request, NCTA feedback request • Google had replied to our comments, • NCTA agreed with us and will support us. • End of August to finish • General discussion items: • PN 3.55 – 3.7 GHz Band rule status and to 57 GHz • Additional FS Protection ex parte • 6 (5-7) GHz and single voice from IEEE 802. • NPRM, Expanding Flexible Use of 3.7 to 4.2GHz Band • ISED RSS 130 – Consultation, includes 600 & 700MHz • Call to Order • Attendance server is open • Administrative items • Need a recording secretary • Approve agenda & last minutes • Any interest in being the 802.18 Vice-Chair? • Discussion items • EU Items • Ofcom consultation • IEEE EU Spectrum Management Statement • Google waiver request • General Discussion Items • Actions required • Several • AOB and Adjourn Jay Holcomb (Itron) Agenda

  6. Motions - administrative • Motion: To approve the agenda as presented on previous slide • Moved by: Rich Kennedy (Self) • Seconded by: Stuart Kerry (Ruckus/Arris) • Discussion? • Vote: Unanimous consent • Motion: To approve the minutes from the IEEE 802.18 teleconference on 16 Aug 2018 in document: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0102-00-0000-minutes-16aug18-rr-tag-teleconference.docPosted: 19-Aug-2018 12:18:15 ET • Moved by: John Notor (Notor Research) • Seconded by: Thomas Kuerner (TU Braunschweig) • Discussion? • Vote: Unanimous consent • Does anyone have an interest in being the 802.18 Vice-Chair? • Needs to be a member of the SA and a declaration of term commitment and affiliation letters to the EC. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  7. EU items • Anything to share on the EU front? • General EU news? • Many are questioning the consultant’s input and EC services desk officer concern on leaving to much up to the manufacturer. • Also, it was anticipated the consultant would focus on legal processes, not technical. • Letters are being generated to send to the EC with the concerns. • This is hitting all the different technical and standards groups, e.g. could hit 3GPP even. • There is some discussion if already OJEU standards, may be pulled back. Huge concern. • Before: Discussions going on about receiver performance from EC input. There are questions on how it relates to the Harmonized Standards and products to market. • It affects many Harmonized Standards and opinion by many, this is a difficult issue. It was posted on the TG11 site and can be picked up there. • ETSI – BRAN – meeting #99 – 18-21 Sept • Upper 6GHz band TFES TR due to posted by 12 Sept. and BRAN TR is posted. • ETSI - ERM - TG-11 – meeting #54 – 15-19 Oct. • EN 300 328 (v2.2.1 (2018-04)) will not be published in the OJEU, due to the EC consultant report. • For RED conformity assessment need to use EN 300 328 (v2.1.1 (2017-01). Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  8. EU items -2 • CEPT – ECC SE45 - Next f2f  2-3 October in Maisons-Alfort, Paris (France) • Chair was on the FM57 call last night. Waiting on the stable report from FM57 and working the details on getting this report. Progress is being made. • Last week: Simulations need to be re-run now, and hopefully before final minutes and draft document next Friday the 24th. The positive is all are on the same page now. • There is an added section 6.8 in the minutes on UWB, though remember SM-1756 is still what controls. • CEPT – ECC FM57 - Web-meeting this morning, Thursday 23rd August between 10:30 - 13:00 CET. • Next f2f  4 October in Maisons-Alfort, Paris (France) • Presentation last night on UWB, regulatory matters do not belong in a technical report, and should be from WG FM. Look in document #6 of FM57 for more detail. Also review the minutes of the call last night. • CEPT – ECC PT1 • Latest news from ECC PT1#59 • WRC-19 AI 1.13: Frequency bands for 5G (IMT-2020) • The preliminary CEPT position in the draft Brief was updated to support IMT identification in 26 GHz, 40.5-43.5 GHz and 66-71 GHz. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  9. Ofcom - WRC-19 AIs Consultation • Ofcom Consultation: UK preparations for the World Radiocommunication Conference 2019 (WRC-19) • https://www.ofcom.org.uk/consultations-and-statements/category-1/uk-preparations-wrc-19 • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0069-01-0000-ofcom-consultation-on-preparations-for-wrc-19.pdf(with some 802.18 comments started.) • The closing date for responses is 13 September 2018. (To EC by 16 or 23 Aug) • There are 32 questions Ofcom is asking. • We should focus on AIs from our view point document; 1.12, 1.13, 1.15, 1.16, 9.1.5 and 10. • 1.1 This consultation calls on stakeholders to help us play an important part in shaping the regulations that govern how the world’s radio spectrum is used. It sets out the key issues to be discussed at next year’s World Radiocommunications Conference (WRC-19) – and spells out our early thinking on the outcomes we’d like to achieve. It also explains the engagement process which Ofcom manages in order to allow stakeholders to feed into the development of UK positions for the WRC. • 1.2 Among the areas for discussion at WRC-19 are use of spectrum for mobile broadband – including next generation 5G. Decisions taken at the conference on this and other matters could affect thousands of UK businesses and consumers. • 802.18 Comments, last clean version ready for approval, any updates? • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0088-03-0000-ofcom-consultation-comments-on-prep-for-wrc19.docx Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  10. Ofcom - WRC-19 AIs Consultation -2 • New input yesterday on question 32 and AI 10. • Proposed Response to begin: "IEEE 802 urges the UK to oppose any attempts to have a new WRC-2023 Agenda Item associated with the 5925-7125 MHz range. Consideration of the 5925-7125 MHz range under a WRC-2023 Agenda Item would be highly disruptive to future planned RLAN deployments / services and would further delay provisions of high-speed internet. In adopting the ECC Work Item (5925-6425 MHz) there was an expectation that spectrum above 6425 MHz may be considered for future RLAN deployments." == followed by proposed TVWS text in 18-88r3 == • With this not in the approved IEEE 802 viewpoints <doc>, • And without an IEEE 802 as a whole single voice on 6GHz yet, • Due to these points, and one being controversial, seems we should vet it out with the different working groups and the EC, before using as an IEEE 802 comment. • Looking at the proposal, we may want to clarify some on what oppose mean for Ofcom to do. • Note, the USA has not sent out their intent on AI 10, yet. • With the short time frame and needing to approve today, we should hold for now. • Can keep in mind Ofcom has been open to input later on, though do quickly. • Later when we have a single voice on 6GHz we could add to the IEEE 802 WRC-19 Agenda Items viewpoints, to use as needed. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  11. Jay Holcomb (Itron) Motion - Ofcom Consultation on WRC-19 AIs • Motion:Move to approve the comments in https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0088-03-0000-ofcom-consultation-comments-on-prep-for-wrc19.docx; response to Ofcom plans on WRC-19 Agenda Items (AI). For review and approval by the EC for sending to the Ofcom on or before 13 September 2018. The Chair of 802.18 is authorized to make editorial changes as necessary. • Move by: John Notor (Notor Research) • Second by: Stuart Kerry (Ruckus/Arris) • Discussion: None • Vote: _10_ Yes _0_ No _0_ Abstain • Motion: Passed • # In attendance: 14

  12. IEEE EU spectrum management statement • What was sent to the IEEE 802 chair for a short write up on our overall view and what is needed: • In our opinion spectrum policy cannot be based on measuring 3-D occupancy and then enforce corrections. Spectrum policy needs to allow for dynamic sharing and allocation with the technologies available today and coming in the future. In addition, society’s goals are not that all spectrum is occupied in high-value locations, rather that services are available in high-value locations, meeting what users are expecting. • And there is agreement to propose using the SA statement for this need also, as it will work globally. • Discussed even if SA wants to keep separate from the other Operating Units, we still feel this statement could work for the EU (and globally). • Email ready for head of GPPC and cc: the EU spectrum group contact with the paragraph above and the SA statement would work well for them also. • Reviewed the draft email and any edits? Nothing came up. • Any objections for the .18 chair to send the email? None heard. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  13. Google Wavier -1 • Latest Google submission did attempt to answer some of our questions. • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0080-00-0000-google-s-waiver-request-supplement-to-coexist-with-802-11-with-motion-sensing-57-64ghz.pdf • Note: The waiver is to allow the marketing and certification of equipment / production. • Reminder on our 4 Points • Our comments; https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0032-05-0000-google-s-waiver-request-ieee-802-comments-motion-sensing-57-64-ghz.pdf • Sharing is not clear with 100% duty cycle, it is a 10x e.i.r.p. level, 802.11 has LBT, etc. • Google says 10% now, where the new analysis was done with negligible degradation, along with 100% duty cycle showing 8% degradation. Also, the Soli is out side the WiFi channel 75% of the time. • Didn’t test with 802.11ad with single carrier modulation which is the majority of users. (OFDM is more tolerant which is what they did test with.) • In the new analysis, they did with single carrier. • 3. Didn’t test in the same device, like a phone. • In the new analysis they did what they say is atypical close proximity to WiFi client and again with 10% duty cycle there was no negative affects. With 100% duty cycle no harm on Wi-Fi through put 80% to 95% of the time. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  14. Google Wavier -2 • Reminder on our 4 Points – cont. • 4. Didn’t test with 802.15.3e (which is different from 3c which Google mentions). • IEEE 802.15.3e made some footnotes that it has a closer intended range than the 11ad so concerns are less likely to materialize. • In our view, does it resolve some of the concerns that IEEE 802 raised? • Not totally. • After additional discussion at Plenary, the RR-TAG does want to look more seriously at an ex parte, and NCTA will likely support what we are seeing. • The proceeding: • ECFS: https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/filings?proceedings_name=18-70&sort=date_disseminated,DESC Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  15. Google Wavier -3 • We reviewed before marked up versions of Google’s & Facebook’s responses: • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0080-00-0000-google-s-waiver-request-supplement-to-coexist-with-802-11-with-motion-sensing-57-64ghz.pdf • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0089-00-0000-google-s-waiver-request-facebook-letter-after-reply-comments-motion-sensing-57-64-ghz.pdf • How do we get an ex parte going, FCC may grant the waiver soon? • Summarize our comments first, what is significant. • Then show where Facebook agrees with us, then support Facebook other points. (do we agree with all or just some.) • Outline to these points above is next. • Need to target end of August. • Is anyone available to work up a ex parte with our points to get us going? No one came forward last week. • Do we want to pass and let Google reply comments, we question, stand; other than for FaceBook’s filings? (NCTA also questions Google’s reply comments) • An option is word on the street is Google working on a response to FaceBook. We could wait till then and then do an ex parte. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  16. Motion - FCC Google Wavier ex parte • Motion:Move to approve the ex parte in 18-18/00___r___, response to Google reply comments on request for wavier (FCC ET Docket 18-70) of section 15.255(c)(3) of the FCC rules for their interactive motion sensing in the 57-64 GHz band, to increase the allowed power. For review and approval by the EC for sending to the FCC by _______. The Chair of 802.18 is authorized to make editorial changes as necessary. • Move by: . • Second by: . • Discussion: None • Vote: ___ Yes ___ No ___ Abstain • Motion:Passed Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  17. General Discussion Items -0 • Additional Fixed Service (FS) Protection ex parte • An ex parte filing given to the FCC on July 31st on sharing • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0097-00-0000-ex-parte-next-data-base-6-ghz-additional-fs-protection-discussion.pdf • The proposal is to add a third database to the current TV White Space and CBRS databases. • Automatic Frequency Coordination. • Anyone familiar with the bits and pieces mess of automotive emissions controls knows that a piecemeal approach has a troubled future. Now is the time for us to plan for spectrum management for the next 20 years. • We don’t need to stop current database developments, but must keep an eye to a future where all spectrum is controlled this way • CBRS, 6 GHz, TVWS… • What are thoughts from all on adding another coordination data base? • Short on time last week and this to get reasonable feedback. • Note: the NPRM on 3.7 – 4.2GHz is asking about the database used for CBRS. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  18. General Discussion Items -1 • PN on 3.55-3.7GHz and spectrum to 57GHz • WTB and OET seek comment pursuant to the spectrum pipeline act of 2015. GN Docket Nos. 14-177, 15-319, 17-183, and 17-258 • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0098-00-0000-pn-da-18-841-seek-comments-3-5-ghz-band-rule-changes-and-what-about-to-57-ghz.pdf • Comments: 11 Sept and Reply Comments: 26 Sept • The PN was reviewed in detail and not something for IEEE 802. • Any objections to let drop? Ok to drop • 6 (5-7) GHz and single voice from IEEE 802. • Next is where the 11ax CoEx document goes. • Nothing new lately. • Time could be quick to come up with a single voice from IEEE 802 for the NPRM? • Should see the NPRM ‘draft’ text 3 weeks before the FCC Open meeting this is on the agenda. (Open meeting dates: 26 Sept, 23 Oct, 15 Nov) Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  19. General Discussion Items -2a • FCC – Flexible Use of the 3.7 to 4.2 GHz Band, Order & NPRM • ECFS: https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/filings?proceedings_name=18-122&sort=date_disseminated,DESC • Mentor: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0076-01-0000-nprm-3-7-4-2ghz-gn-18-122.pdf • III. ORDER: COLLECTING INFORMATION ON SATELLITE USAGE OF THE BAND • IV. NOTICE OF PROPOSED RULEMAKING • A. The Future of Incumbent Usage of 3.7-4.2 GHz • B. Increasing the Intensity of Terrestrial Use of the band on a shared basis starting in the top segment of the band and moving down the band. • Questions were brought up in 802.24 meeting at the plenary and 802.22 at the leadership meeting that Saturday, to watch this one. • New: R&O is out • FR Document: 2018-17296 Citation: 83 FR 42043 • PDF Pages 42043-42045 (3 pages)Permalink • Abstract: In this document, the Federal Communications Commission (Commission or FCC) adopts certification and information collection requirements for 3.7-4.2 GHz band spectrum that will be available for new wireless uses while balancing desired speed to the market, efficiency of use, and effectively accommodating incumbent Fixed Satellite Service (FSS) and Fixed Service (FS) operations in the band. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  20. General Discussion Items -2b • FCC – Flexible Use of the 3.7 to 4.2 GHz Band, Order & NPRM • R&O is out – cont. • FR Document: 2018-17296 Citation: 83 FR 42043 • PDF Pages 42043-42045 (3 pages)Permalink • … by this Order the Commission adopts the certification and information collection requirements described in paragraphs 5–12 below. The Commission and the public will use the information collected to evaluate future use of the 3.7–4.2 GHz band. • Dates: The certification requirements are adopted effective August 20, 2018; except for Earth Station and Space Station Information Collections in paragraphs 7-12, which contain information collection requirements that have not been approved by the Office of Management and Budget. The FCC will publish a document in the Federal Register announcing the effective date for those requirements. • 14. It is further ordered that the notice of inquiry, GN Docket No. 17–183, Expanding Flexible Use in the Mid-Band Spectrum Between 3.7–24 GHz, adopted on August 3, 2017, is terminated as to the 3.7–4.2 GHz band. • .18 chair did sent to chairs of 802.22 and 802.24 so they were aware. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  21. General Discussion Items -3 • RABC/ISED RSS-130, consultation • https://www.rabc-cccr.ca/open-consultations/ised-radio-standards-specification-rss-130-issue-2-equipment-operating-in-the-frequency-bands-617-652-mhz-663-698-mhz-698-756-mhz-and-777-787-mhz/ • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0095-00-0000-consultation-on-rss-130-issue-2-draft-1.pdf • Comments are due no later than October 3, 2018.  • Summary of updates: • Add the frequency bands 617-652 MHz and 663-698 MHz and the related requirements to the standard. • Several different technical parameter updates: • Power out EIRP to ERP; Guidance on OBW with multiple channels frequency stability; multiple antennas measured per ANSI. • The .18 chair did let 802.11, 802.15 and 802.22 know. • Will drop from agenda unless further feedback pulls it back. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  22. Actions Required • Ofcom consultation questions; send to EC. • IEEE EU position statement; send email to the GPPC. • Google request ex parte, do we want to let their comments we disagree with stand? Not yet. Will hold for their response to FaceBook. • Monitor: • 6 (5-7) GHz and single voice from IEEE 802. <doc> • FCC NPRM on 3.7-4.2 GHz, any inputs <doc> • ISED consultation on RSS 130, any inputs <doc> • Sharing and license-exempt; • Next Generation Spectrum Management (NGSM) <doc> • 802.11 WNG proposal on Future of Unlicensed Spectrum <doc> • A perspective on regardless of everything we do, the available spectrum has a hard limit <doc> • Including push to bi-directional sharing <doc> Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  23. Any Other Business Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  24. Adjourn • Next teleconference: 30 Aug 2018 – 15:00 – <15:55 ET • Call in info: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/16/18-16-0038-10-0000-teleconference-call-in-info.pptx(or latest) • Note: If the call-in link doesn’t work send the Chair an email right away. • All changes/cancellations will be sent out to the 802.18 list server. • Adjourn: • We are the end of our agenda, any objection to Adjourn. • None heard, we are Adjourned at 15:55 ET • The next face to face meeting of the 802.18 RR-TAG will be at the IEEE 802 Wireless Interim 11-13 Sept 2018 at the Hilton Waikoloa Village, Kona, HI, USA • Usual time slots, Tuesday AM2 and Thursday AM1 (-2) • Thank You Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  25. Jay Holcomb (Itron) Thank You • Reference, links to EU sites: • Bran: https://portal.etsi.org/tb.aspx?tbid=287&SubTB=287 • ERM TG-11: https://portal.etsi.org/tb.aspx?tbid=442&SubTB=442 • CEPT SE45: https://cept.org/ecc/groups/ecc/wg-se/se-45/client/introduction/ • CEPT FM57: https://cept.org/ecc/groups/ecc/wg-fm/fm-57/client/introduction/ • OJEU: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/oj/direct-access.html • HS: https://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-standards/ Back up and/or previous slides follow

  26. IEEE 802 – Can we get to a Single Voice on 6GHz?-1 • Word is the FCC NPRM (Notice of Proposed Rulemaking) on 6GHz band should be out before the end of the year, and could be as soon as September. • Comment period could be shorter, tbd. • With that we need to understand in what direction IEEE 802 as a whole should (or should not) respond to the NPRM with. • Reminder: • IEEE P802.11ax – wants this band for spectrum expansion that WiFi needs. • Keep in mind, others, e.g. 3GPP also want the band. • IEEE 802.15.4, UWB, is already in use in the band, and is the band most used around the world for 802.15.4-UWB. • The concern is WiFi interferes with UWB with its very low power. • Recently 802.19 voted on the .11ax CoEx document and it failed. • This is being worked on through the normal IEEE 802 process, to be updated and part upcoming letter ballot, etc. • There are a number of other incumbents in USA and the EU concerned with coexistence. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  27. General Discussion Items -4 • Sharing and license-exempt • A study on feasibility and next steps toward a Next Generation Spectrum Management (NGSM). • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-1386-00-0wng-ngsm-next-generation-spectrum-management.pptx • 802.11 San Diego WGN proposal on Future of Unlicensed Spectrum • https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/18/ec-18-0155-00-00EC-push-to-bi-directional-spectrum-sharing.pptx • A perspective on regardless of everything we do to develop new, better, faster wireless technologies, the available spectrum has a hard limit • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0060-02-0000-a-future-for-unlicensed-spectrum.pptx • Bi-directional sharing • https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/18/ec-18-0155-00-00EC-push-to-bi-directional-spectrum-sharing.pptx • This came up in the IEEE 802 LeaderCon session in July and the 802.18 chair along with others have an action item to look at this more. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  28. IEEE 802 – Can we get to a Single Voice on 6GHz?-2 • Sunday, chairs of 802.11, 802.15, 802.18, 802.19 and others met to discuss this. • Here is a link to what was reviewed, • https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/18/ec-18-0133-00-00EC-how-can-ieee-802-get-to-a-single-voice-for-6ghz-band.pptx (includes comment that in the EU (and most other countries) UWB is a lower priority than WS/RLAN usage) • Next steps • 802.19/802.11ax, will work through the 802.11ax coexistence document through the process so it is updated, passes 802.19 and can be in an upcoming 802.11ax letter ballot. (802.18 will stay involved) • Once the 802.11ax coexistence document is finished up, this will start next phase of defining the voice from IEEE 802 as a whole, that can be used on the NPRM. • Until the NPRM actually comes out, we will not be sure what is in them exactly to know just how to do final comments, assuming we have a direction on voice from 802. • Timing? Until the NPRM is published in the Federal Register, no way to speculate very close the date comments will be due. • Speculating the shortest time frame is the NPRM is published early September with a 30 day comments period. Making them due mid-October between the September Interim and November plenary. • New feedback, Learned this week October FCC open meeting is the latest word of when we may see the NPRM, not September as earlier indications. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  29. WiFi / UWB Coexistence -1 • IEEE 802.19 and other WG chairs are working on IEEE 802 single voice. • From a high level, could we list out some of the following. • Do not want to get into detail, just high level points to consider to help. • What criteria should be considered? • Power out needed, different for each technology. • Bandwidth considerations. • Channel sense, e.g. LBT. • Incumbent protection. • Interference types, blocks .vs. range decrease. • Operational ranges themselves. • Different modulation types . • Tuning range of UWB (global considerations). • Thursday: • Is there a way to ID that UWB is there and transmitting? Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  30. WiFi / UWB Coexistence -2 • What Use Cases should be considered? • Higher speed (wider BWs) for WiFi users, e.g. streaming video, etc. • Global availability (S. Korea just this week consultation 6 – 10.2 GHz for UWB) • UWB applications - Many (See 15-17/0660), e.g. location is a significant use case. • Where devices are used, height, indoor/outdoor, etc. • Review 15.2 co-existence of WiFi / BT / … • Co-located in a device, and non-co-located. • Thursday: • Nothing new. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  31. IEEE EU position statement on spectrum management • From earlier teleconferences: • IEEE European Public Policy Position Statement on Spectrum Management • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0028-01-0000-draft-ieee-european-public-policy-position-statement-on-spectrum-management.pdf (old rev) • We are being asked to review this statement, similar to the one in November, though some focus for the EU. Guidance is to review and comment in detail. • Document 18-18/0028rxx, latest revision is our current review markup. • Please send comments to .18 chair, to integrate, to be reviewed by the TAG. • Becoming clearer the starting premise of the current paper is from several years ago and input is coming in the premise has changed in recent years. • Considering the question on older premise, it has on the statement: • This statement was developed by the IEEE European Public Policy Committee Working Group on ICT and represents the considered judgment of a broad group of European IEEE members with expertise in the subject field. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  32. IEEE EU Position Statement -2 • Went through 18-18/0028r01 review copy, the remaining sections we have not reviewed and found a couple of specific areas that need clarity. • And brought audience up to speed on point premise of paper is from a few years back and had agreement with those that spoke up. • Some general questions: • Should the IEEE SA (the position statement we reviewed in November and January) and the IEEE EU collaborate on these 2 separate position statements in some fashion? • Then move above them. (.18 should still review) • What was original driver to do the statement? • Who is the general audience it is written for? • As it is, there is a concern if it is sent out and organizations our members are working with, CEPT, BRAN, etc. it will cause confusion, and more. • Request that anyone with specific input to continue to please pass on to the .18 chair, sooner. • .18 chair will cleanup the review revision of the paper (should end up r02) and ask the IEEE 802 chair for further guidance on next steps. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  33. Motion – EU Spectrum Management • Motion: To approve document 18-___/00____r__, IEEE 802 comments on IEEE European Public Policy Position Statement (18-18/0028r00), with the 802.18 Chair having editorial privileges. Then send to the EC for approval and return IEEE EPPC WG. • Moved by: • Seconded by: • Discussion? • Vote: ___Y / ___N / ___A Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  34. Encina Questions • Questions from Encina, who presented explained in previous meetings about using/sharing 802.11 WiFi on Part 101 licenses. • They are writing reply comments for NoI 17-183 which would make it possible for WiFi to operate in the Part 101 frequency band of 5.925 GHz – 6.425 GHz without causing interference to existing stations or blocking new applicant stations. • They have a couple of questions, do any of the 802.11 specifications issued, or in process, meet the following requirements: • Operate in the 5.925 – 6.425 GHz band • There is an amendment being worked on, IEEE P802.11ax, due in 2020 • Actually it does go up to 7.125 GHz, today. • And it does cover 2.4, 5.8 and 6 GHz. • EIRP of 36 dBm or less • Yes – Annex D and E have the basic radio specs, except for 60 GHz in China. • It does talk to other FCC Parts. • Listen before talk • Yes – except 60 GHz, it does not have LTB, today. • Determine its lat, long and height AMSL • Nothing in the standard. • Masters will know where they are per regulations, so not needed in the standard. • A key is different countries have different rules. • There is an “option” for detailed timings, though has dependencies on how it is implemented by different vendors. • IEEE 802.11-2016 has the details. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  35. A Future For Unlicensed Spectrum – from last week • A perspective on regardless of everything we do to develop new, better, faster wireless technologies, the available spectrum has a hard limit • See: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0060-02-0000-a-future-for-unlicensed-spectrum.pptx • Will review and discuss • The idea is to cover the entire spectrum in the database, all of it. • Then knowing what frequency range the device is in and geographic location, can manage the users. • Similar idea years back were not fully accepted, though with recent actions, e.g. 6GHz, a data base maybe viewed differently now. • Should look at the CBRS database and what can we learn from it. • This is a long term effort, and need to start to put all the pieces together, before going to regulators. • 3550 filings of interest: • Google October 2017 overall summary • https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/10160477327041/2017-10-16%20Ex%20Parte%20(GN%2012-354%20RM-11788%20RM-11789).pdf • Slide 16 SAS providers & carriers have developed a mutuall satisfactory legal agreement covering confidential data • Appendix A:Wireless Innovation Forum and SAS and CBSD Standards Development • https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/60001854348.pdf Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  36. A Future For Unlicensed Spectrum • A perspective on regardless of everything we do to develop new, better, faster wireless technologies, the available spectrum has a hard limit • See: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/18/18-18-0060-02-0000-a-future-for-unlicensed-spectrum.pptx (more regulatory based) • The most recent document is: 11-18/1055rxx (more standards based) • We reviewed and discussed the latest .11 version for Plenary WNG in San Diego. • The idea is to cover the entire spectrum in the database, all of it. • Then knowing what frequency range the device is in and geographic location, can manage the users. • Similar idea years back were not fully accepted, though with recent actions, e.g. 6GHz, a data base maybe viewed differently now. • A perspective on regardless of everything we do to develop new, better, faster wireless technologies, the available spectrum has a hard limit Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  37. IEEE – not connected and underserved (from last week) • IEEE Connectivity Coalition • Internet Inclusion means that all stakeholders are engaged in the planning and implementation of technology systems; that all potential people impacted can access and have certain rights to understand the implications of the technology and know how to use it safely and ethically; and that with these technologies come more services, tools, increased information and opportunities to expand access for communities around the world. As digital technology is increasingly used for educational, employment, health, commercial and informational purposes, Internet Inclusion is critical for full engagement, participation and opportunity in the social, economic and civic life of society. • This ties into the effort brought up at the Chicago meeting on how to connect the 3.8B people, not connected today. • Stayed tuned as we learn more. • Rich will be talking to Senior Director, Technology Policy and International Affairs on this and what we can do. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  38. Potential reference document when doing comments • Note: in the 802.19 co-existence <1 GHz meeting it was brought up for IEEE 802 as a whole to put together a document on basic spectrum parameters that would be good for all IEEE 802 standards to co-exist (less interference….) • Actually, need to have this for all IEEE 802 to just work in the spectrum, e.g. BWs needed. Not just coexistence. • Point being that 802.18 can refer to / use when responding to regulators on different consultations, to encourage regulators in general to configure their spectrum to allow all the IEEE 802 standards in a more consistent/friendly way. • For the many in attendance, it was felt many regulators would appreciate at least knowing this. • Additional point to add to the doc, duty cycle is not for the protocol/standard/amendment being discussed, it is a regulation to allow others (and their packet lengths) to have access to the spectrum. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

  39. Fellowship Request • Fellowship request on reaching out to all regulators. • Enhancing Collaboration between IEEE 802 and World Regulators on unlicensed spectrum regulations • https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-0580-01-coex-enhancing-collaboration-between-ieee-802-and-world-regulators-on-unlicensed-spectrum-regulations.pptx • Thursday: • A start is to keep in touch with the fellowship attendees. • They are welcome to our meetings and calls. • Could something be added to the IEEE newsletter/communication for the regulators, to answer the news letter input? • Can IEEE be more pro-active with some of the other (e.g. regional) regulators? • The challenge is to ID which we can, and being a volunteer / individual organization, the time and money from the volunteers? • Many regulators don’t have IEEE has a point of contact like they do with WFA or other implementing orgs do. Jay Holcomb (Itron)

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