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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Background to Darwinian EvolutionMicroevolution vs. Macroevolution and Animal Kinds

Joshua Gurtler 11/19/2011 www.Extonchurch.org


What we will learn about animal kinds in this lesson

What We Will Learn about “Animal Kinds” in This Lesson

Fixity of Animal Kinds Precludes (Disproves) Darwinian Evolution

Animals Can Vary/Change Within Their Kind (Microevolution), But Not Outside Their Kind (Macroevolution).

Similarities in Created Kinds Reflects an Intelligent Designer

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Introduction

Introduction

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Against evidentialism

Against Evidentialism

- Humanism, Scientism, Rationalism, and Evidentialism affirm that we can know ultimate eternal truth via human reasoning.

- Ultimate eternal truth can only be obtained through an ultimate and eternal mind: the mind of the creator.

“My goal is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.” (Col. 2:3)

- Then why study science in the origins debate? To let science point us BACK to God’s divine revelation – “The Bible Has The Answers”

– History, geology, archaeology, paleontology, anthropology, psychology, sociology, microbiology, biochemistry, anatomy, astronomy all point back to an eternal creator- - - - GEN. 1:1-31

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Joshua Gurtler 11/19/2011 www.Extonchurch.org


Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Joshua Gurtler 11/19/2011 www.Extonchurch.org


Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Joshua Gurtler 11/19/2011 www.Extonchurch.org


What is creation science

What Is Creation Science?

"We have no basis on the record to conclude that creation science need be anything other than a collection of scientific data supporting the theory that life abruptly appeared on the earth."

  • United States Supreme Court Justices Antonin Scalia and William Rehnquist, Edwards vs. Aguillard, Dissent (1987).

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Joshua Gurtler 11/19/2011 www.Extonchurch.org


Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Joshua Gurtler 11/19/2011 www.Extonchurch.org


Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Joshua Gurtler 11/19/2011 www.Extonchurch.org


Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Joshua Gurtler 11/19/2011 www.Extonchurch.org


Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Joshua Gurtler 11/19/2011 www.Extonchurch.org


A literal day

A Literal “Day”?

If we can’t believe that the word “day” in Genesis 1 is a literal 24 hour day because of humanistic “science” then:

Why is each use of “day” accompanied by the phrase “morning and evening” in Gen. 1?

Why did Moses teach that these were 24-hour days in Exodus 20:11? “Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work. . . For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day.”

How do we believe the “unscientific” virgin birth of Jesus?

How do we believe the “unscientific” resurrection?

How do we believe the “unscientific” miracles of the O.T. and N.T.?

We can’t believe any of the Bible, if we’ve already established from Gen. 1 that humanistic science supersedes scripture.

- Ultimate and eternal truth can only be obtained through an ultimate and eternal mind: the mind of the creator.

“My goal is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.” (Col. 2:3)

- Then why study science in the origins debate? To point BACK to God’s divine revelation

– History, geology, archaeology, paleontology, psychology, microbiology, biochemistry, anatomy, astronomy all point back to an eternal creator - - - - - - GEN. 1:1-31

Joshua Gurtler 11/19/2011 www.Extonchurch.org


Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Joshua Gurtler 11/19/2011 www.Extonchurch.org


Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Joshua Gurtler 11/19/2011 www.Extonchurch.org


Slandering creationists i

Slandering Creationists I

“When are you going to accept science and quit trying to create a new dark age for humanity?”

Credit: Jason Lisle, Ultimate Proof of Creation. 2009. New Leaf Publishing Group: Green Forest, AR.

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Slandering creationists ii

Slandering Creationists II

“Your position is so stiff. If everyone were like you we would still be without cars, mathematics, chemistry, geology, archaeology and any other science. I hope some day you can rethink your position and humanity can walk together toward progress, prosperity and knowledge.”

Credit: Jason Lisle, Ultimate Proof of Creation. 2009. New Leaf Publishing Group: Green Forest, AR.

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Slandering creationists iii

Slandering Creationists III

“Your denial of basic science will, in the long run, discredit you and your cause. The empirical evidence is available for all to consider. Your message is akin to asking us to believe that the world is flat or that the sun revolves around the earth, despite overwhelming empirical evidence to the contrary. How can you honestly deny science and be so ignorant to the obvious truth about our beginnings? . . . stop leading people in nonsense and lies. If anyone has half a brain they’re going to listen to science for truth and not 4,000 year old stories written by goat herders.”

Credit: Jason Lisle, Ultimate Proof of Creation. 2009. New Leaf Publishing Group: Green Forest, AR.

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Slandering creationists iv

Slandering Creationists IV

Credit: Jason Lisle, Ultimate Proof of Creation. 2009. New Leaf Publishing Group: Green Forest, AR.

“If perchance there is a God and reason behind this madness they certainly will not be found in a book as flawed and disgusting as the Bible. The claim that T-Rex was a vegetarian prior to the fall is so absurd it scarcely deserves commentary.”

Comment: I remain open to the possibility of pre-flood vegetarianism of animal-kind. Beyond the possibility of supernatural intervention, there are vegetarian animals today who, by all appearances, would be assumed to be carnivorous: (e.g. panda bear, fruit bat, case of the lion that wouldn’t eat meat, dogs on corn/soy diets, etc.)

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

The philosophy that all life on earth gradually evolved from a single-celled organism by means of random mutations and natural selection (i.e., survival of the fittest). AKA, “particles to people” or “molecules to man.”

What is Evolution?

(AKA, Naturalistic Evolution, Neo-Darwinism, Darwinism, or The General Theory of Evolution)

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I the history of darwinian evolution

I. The History of Darwinian Evolution

Men have been trying to explain God away for over 3,000 years

1) Psalms 14:1; 53:1

2) Ancient Greeks: Thales (588 B.C.) Anaximander (570 B.C.); Empedocles (455 B.C.); Democritus (420 B.C.); Strato (288 B.C.)

rajama.net

Thales, 588 B.C.

Anaximander, 570 B.C.

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Evolution Proposed Prior to Charles Darwin

Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (1744-1829)

Robert Grant (1793-1874)

Geoffroy Saint-Hilaire (1772-1844)

Edward Blyth (1810-1873)

Alfred Russel Wallace (1823-1913)

Erasmus Darwin (1731-1802)


Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

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Darwin admitted his weakness

Darwin Admitted His Weakness

“Why is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely-graduated organic chain; and this, perhaps, is the most obvious and serious objection which can be urged against the theory”

- The Origin of Species, 1872 edition, pp. 264, 265

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

“The record of evolution is still surprisingly jerky and, ironically, we have even fewer examples of evolutionary transition than we had in Darwin’s time.”-Raup, David M., “Conflicts Between Darwin and Paleontology,” Bulletin, Field Museum of Natural History, vol. 50 (January 1979), p. 25. Raup is Curator of Geology at the Field Museum of Natural History, Chicago.

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

“What the ‘record’ shows is nearly a century of fudging and finagling by scientists attempting to force various fossil morsels and fragments to conform with Darwin’s notions, all to no avail. Today the millions of fossils stand as very visible, ever-present reminders of the paltriness of the arguments and the overall shabbiness of the theory that marches under the banner of evolution.”- Jeremy Rifkin, Algeny, p. 125; (New York: Viking Press, 1983) [Evolutionist, advisor to France, Germany, Portugal, Slovenia, 17 best-selling books on economics and the environment. The National Journal named Rifkin as one of 150 people in the U.S. most influence in shaping federal government policy.]

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

a. Change (microevolution) occurs within animal kinds (i.e., groups or types, within phylogentic boundaries, aka variation within a kind)b. Microevolution does not cross phylogenetic boundaries into macroevolution (i.e., animals do not change outside their kind)

II. The Microevolution Maxim

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Gen. 1:21, 24, 25

“So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw

that it was good.”

“Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind; and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.”

  • Note: “Min” is the Hebrew word for “kind.”

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What is baraminology

What Is Baraminology?

“Baraminology is a creationist taxonomic system that classifies animals into groups called "created kinds" or "baramins” according to the account of creation in the book of Genesis. It claims that differing kinds cannot interbreed, and have no evolutionary relationship to one another.”

  • First Proposed by Frank Marsh in 1941.

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

> 1,300 Varieties of Roses

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www.mr-roses.com


Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Carl Linne’s (Carolus Linnaeus) Taxonomic Classification SchemeKingdomPhylumClassOrderFamilyGenusspecies

1707-1778

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

CanidaeCanis

Sdsnake.com

animals.nationalgeographic.com

daveparsons.com

Jackal

Coyote

Wolf

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

CanidaeCanis

Wikipedia.com

Sciencetrio.wordpress.com

Coywolf

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

CanidaeCanis lupus rufus

Wikipedia.com

Audobon North American Field Guide to Mammals

Red Wolf

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

CanidaeCanis

Sdsnake.com

animals.nationalgeographic.com

daveparsons.com

Jackal

Coyote

Wolf

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Great Dane vs. Chihuahua

http://chweetpics.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Great-Dane-and-Chihuahua-small.jpg


Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

FelidaePanthera

animals.nationalgeographic.com

animals.nationalgeographic.com

Lion

Tiger

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Liger

news.nationalgeographic.com

Tigon

Liger.com

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Domestic Cat

www.zooinstitutes.com/animals/1385.jpg

www.petpeoplesplace.com/resources/gallery/images/uploads/Abyssinian_802904131.jpg

Caracal

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Caracat

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EquidaeEquus zebra EquidaeEquusferus

www.filebrothers.com/screenshot/horse-running-beach.jpg

http://thequickanddirtydirty.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/zebra.jpg

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

EquidaeEquus zebra + EquidaeEquusferus =

Zebroid

www.oddee.com/item_96640.aspx

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What We Don’t See

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What We Don’t See: A Rhinebra

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What We Don’t See: A Bird Dog

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What We Don’t See: A Fox Bird

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

What We Don’t See: A Spider Bear

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What We Don’t See: Giraffe Turtle

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

What We Don’t See: A Zebrant

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

BovidaeBosprimigenius

(aka, Domesticated Cattle)BovidaeBison bison(>800 breeds)

www.livingwilderness.com/wildlife/bison-standing.html

http://kenfuchs42.net/lonestar2008_01.html

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

CamelidaeCamelusbactrianusCamelidaeLama glama

http://cdmi.cesr.fr/pub/Sandbox/ANewCamel/camel.jpg

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Domestic_Lama.jpg

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

CamelidaeCamelusbactrianus +

CamelidaeLama glama =

Cama

www.hemmy.net/2006/06/19/top-10-hybrid-animals/

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Gen. 1:21, 24, 25

“So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw

that it was good.”

“Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind; and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.”

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Bird Snake Turtle

≠ ≠ ≠

Bat Rat Cat

≠ ≠ ≠

Dog Pig Monkey

≠ ≠ ≠

Man


Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Infraorder of Related Dinosaurs


Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

III. What Do Similarities in Human and Chimpanzee DNA Indicate?

  • Humanists have argued chimpanzees may be our closest living “relative” because 98.5-99.4% of our DNA is homologous.

  • The Journal Nature, in 2005, had a special issue dedicated to the chimp genome and chimp/human relatedness. Some called it “the most dramatic confirmation yet.” One headline stated, “Charles Darwin was Right and Chimp Gene Map Proves It.”

  • What did they find? There was 50% less similarity between chimp and human DNA than previously thought (i.e., 96%)

  • This seems highly similar, but human genome has 2.9 billion base pairs, so this amounts to 116 million differences!

  • Plus, there are 40-45 million genes in humans missing from chimps and vice versa, or up to 161,000,000 differences in human and chimp DNA. (Sickle cell anemia is only a single base pair difference!)

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

What Do Similarities in Human and Chimpanzee DNA Indicate?

  • The Point? If Humans evolved from chimp-like creatures, it would require at least 150 million beneficial, persistent (accumulating) mutations. . . . But we can’t find one!

  • Further, this evolutionary process supposedly occurred in only 300,000 generations (i.e., 6 million years)

  • HOWEVER, a bacterium with a 20 min. generation time, goes through 368,320 generations in only 14 years and, yet we don’t see ONE positive, persistent (accumulating) mutation, much less 150 million!

  • Finally, although chimps and humans are supposed to be more closely related, sharing a common ancestor that came after the gorillas, guess what was found when comparing their three genomes?. . . . 18-29% of human genetic markers are more similar to gorillas than to chimps– (which disproves evolution) reflects an intelligent designer making mix-and-match mosaics in creation (cf. duck billed platypus, red panda, human and octopus eyes, etc.).

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Common Ancestor

Or

COMMON DESIGNER?

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Background to darwinian evolution microevolution vs macroevolution and animal kinds

Conclusion

Animals can vary/change (microevolution) within their kind, but not outside their kind (macroevolution).

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