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Frozen, Gross Room, and Sign Out TIPS

Frozen, Gross Room, and Sign Out TIPS. Aleksandra Paliga July 8 th 2013. Frozens. AKA Intraoperative Consultations Key responsibility; MUST carry pager from 8-4:30 p.m. Should (must) review operation list beforehand and determine whether or not slides need to be pulled/what to expect

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Frozen, Gross Room, and Sign Out TIPS

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  1. Frozen, Gross Room, and Sign Out TIPS Aleksandra Paliga July 8th 2013

  2. Frozens • AKA Intraoperative Consultations • Key responsibility; MUST carry pager from 8-4:30 p.m. • Should (must) review operation list beforehand and determine whether or not slides need to be pulled/what to expect • Review with staff in morning • Eventually you go down alone and only call staff at the end to confirm your diagnosis • Key time where you potentially can cause harm

  3. Frozen Section • Measure and describe • ORIENT • +/- Palpate • +/- Ink • Take representative section(s) • Document! (be brief) • Time!

  4. Potential Pitfals • Not knowing orientation of margins • Ureters, skin margins • Taking margin before staple line • Bronchial/wedge • Not inking, mauling specimen • Sloughing off lining by over palpating ovary • Sampling the wrong thing • Ovary/sarcomas/complex specimens • Dropping small specimens on floor/losing them • Submitting too much (or too big piece)/ not enough • Bad placement on chuck

  5. Wedge for Frozen Section • DO NOT try to take the margin BEFORE the Staple Line

  6. Then take the whole bronchial ring

  7. Don’t over palpate ovarian lining

  8. Understand proximal/distal ureter orientation and skin orientation

  9. Never Forget! • Microscopy is not the most difficult part of frozen section. • The appropriate macroscopical judgement is more important. • You will only see lesions in your microscope if they are on the slide.

  10. Grossing

  11. Grossing • AKA Macroscopic Examination • Flexible, generally 8-5 p.m. • Should (must) go to gross room evening before and select specimens for next day • Must keep your own record of grossed specimens • May have to supervise and teach med students on elective • Key time where you potentially can cause harm • Review clinical history on Oasis • Use Lesters and Surgpath manual on W Drive • Call staff or supervising senior resident (ask PA as last reort)

  12. Grossing • Measure and describe • ORIENT: Know your margins! • +/- Palpate • +/- Ink • Take representative section(s) • Document • Understand what is important for staging and diagnosis • Understand “normal”

  13. Make sure you understand the margins • i.e. Mesenteric vs. Radial margins in colon

  14. When in doubt = Ask +/- Photograph

  15. Signing Out

  16. Signing Out • AKA Shadowing the staff • 8-5 p.m. • Should discuss with staff afternoon before about meeting time • COMMUNICATION IS KEY • Can check evening before to see if any cases out (head start) • Try to read around cases; for yourself and the patient! • Check patient histories when appropriate • You are very supervised and safe in signout • … except maybe during inter-staff consultations: make sure you understand the question and answer (write it down)

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