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More than just Potato and Potahto:. Differences in Educational Environments and Philosophies around the World. Angie Jones, University of Central Florida John King, University of Central Florida. Objectives and Overview. Purpose Survey (Pre-Study) Advisor-Survivor . Purpose.

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more than just potato and potahto

More than just Potato and Potahto:

Differences in Educational Environments and Philosophies around the World

Angie Jones, University of Central Florida

John King, University of Central Florida

objectives and overview
Objectives and Overview
  • Purpose
  • Survey (Pre-Study)
  • Advisor-Survivor
purpose
Purpose
  • To give an overview of educational philosophies from around the world to benefit general advisors in the areas of awareness, cultural programming, and developmental advising
thailand
THAILAND
  • Intro to Thai culture
  • History of Education
thailand intro to culture
Thailand – Intro to Culture
  • Monarchy
  • Hierarchy
  • Buddhism
thailand intro to culture6
Thailand – Intro to Culture
  • Collectivism
  • Sanuk (fun)
  • Conflict Avoidance
  • Kreng Jai
  • Land of Smiles
thailand intro to culture7
Thailand – Intro to Culture
  • Polite smile for someone you barely know
  • Stiff smile “I should laugh at the joke though it’s not funny”
  • Evil ideas smile
  • I’m impressed smile
  • Lighten the mood smile
  • “Sorry I screwed up” smile
  • “My situation is so bad I might as well smile”
thailand vs united states in higher ed
Thailand

Rigid rules, red tape

Exams more rigorous and graded more difficultly

Lack of critical analysis

Rote learning focused

United States

Many exceptions to rules

Exams often include points for efforts, extra chances

Critical analysis important

Participatory learning

Thailand vs. United States in Higher Ed
thailand vs united states in higher ed10
Thailand

Strong mentoring between students

Voicing non-popular opinion considered disrespectful

Disagreeing with professor on academic subjects considered disrespectful

Aware of social class and hierarchy

United States

No cultural precedence for peer mentorship

Okay to voice non-popular opinion if provide a valid argument

Okay to disagree with many professors on academic subjects

Less aware of social class and hierarchy

Thailand vs. United States in Higher Ed
saudi arabia
SAUDI ARABIA
  • History of Education
  • General System of Education
  • Curriculum/Texts
  • Assessment
  • Culture in Education
  • Saudi Arabia vs. United States
saudi arabia history of education
Saudi Arabia – History of Education
  • Islam focused – goal of spreading and honoring Muslim values
  • Kuttab schools focusing on Islamic studies, reading, writing
  • Simple agrarian society oil rich (1938)  education focus on resources
  • 1953 – Ministry of Education – centralized & modern reformed
  • 1970- Modern movement revisited: learn in a correct and comprehensive manner, Muslim values teaching and ideals, skills and knowledge to contribute to the development of the Saudi Arabian society ; economically, socially, and culturally
saudi arabia history of education13
Saudi Arabia – History of Education
  • 1957: King Saud University founded; 1st class had 21 students
  • 1961: Women admitted as external students in Colleges or Arts and Administrative Sciences
  • Today: 50,000 students
saudi arabia history of education14
Saudi Arabia – History of Education
  • 1970: 7000 students enrolled in colleges/universities
  • 2004: 200,000 students enrolled
system of education
System of Education
  • Three levels:
    • Primary (six grades; ages 6-12)
    • Intermediate (three grades; ages 12-15)
    • Secondary (three grades; ages 15-18)
    • School Hours  5 days a week, Saturday to Wednesday
      • Seven periods of instruction (45 minutes each)
      • 20 minutes for lunch
      • 30 minutes devoted to noon prayers
      • Four Main Authorities of Education:
        • Ministry of Education
        • Presidency of Girl’s education (Eliminated in 2003)
        • Ministry of Higher Education
        • General Organization on Technological Education & Vocational Training
curriculum
Curriculum
  • Centralized & Academic: Developed by Ministry of Education
  • No flexibility of Electives
  • Teachers not involved in Curriculum Development
  • Specifics:
      • Primary: 9 hours a week for Arabic Lessons, 12 hours for other subjects
      • Intermediate: 8 hours/week for Arabic, 19 hours for other subjects
      • Secondary: Same as Intermediate; 11th – divided into science and arts (60% students must enter science track)
texts
Texts
  • One textbook per grade: teachers must stick to book
  • Censored to not include sex or female images
  • Teacher outlines text on board: Note-taking ?
  • Ignores students needs and abilities
  • Rote learning (Islamic Tradition) – move toward critical thinking skills
culture in education
Culture in Education
  • Respect and Dignity held high
  • Hospitality – guest first
  • Friendships – system of favors, rude to refuse help
  • Separation of grades from age seven
  • Voice opinion (sign of excellence) – loud voice marks a degree of seriousness
culture in education20
Culture in Education
  • Student can help friend answer teacher’s question
  • Not cheating – communal learning, sharing
  • Student/Teacher relationship formal
  • Relationship between students is close and non-competitive
  • People more important than rules (negotiation)
  • Casual dress not encouraged in classroom
  • Inappropriate to ask about female members of a man’s family
saudi arabia vs united states
SAUDI ARABIA

Rote Learning Focus

Lessons do not conflict with Islamic principles

Negotiation of grades

More Individual Work

Expressing opinion in loud voice symbol of learning

Friendship/Family high importance

Separation by gender

UNITED STATES

Critical Analysis

Lessons usually no religious parameters

Grades often non-negotiable

Group Work focused

Expressing opinion in loud voice symbol of aggression/disrespect

Individuality/Self-Reliance

No separation by gender

Saudi Arabia vs. United States
sources
Sources
  • Al-Faisal, T. (2006). Saudi Education in the Global Economy Vital. Speeches of the Day 4/15/06, 72 (1), 414-416
  • Al-Saden, I.A (March 2000). Educational Assessment in Saudi Arabian Schools Assessment in Education: Principles, Policy, & Practice, 7(1), 143-156.
  • El-Sanabary, N. (1994). Female Education in Saudi Arabia and the reproduction of Gender Division, Gender & Education, 6(2).
  • Flaitz, J., Kosel, L. Kalaydijan, K., Miranda, A., Mitchell, D., Mohamed, A., Smith-Palinkas, B., York, J., Zollner, E. (2003). Understanding Your International Students: An Educational, Cultural and Linguistic Guide, Ann Arbor, MI: University of Michigan Press.
  • Miller-Rosser, K., Chapman, Y., & Francis, K. (2006). Historical, Cultural, and Contemporary Influences on the status of Women in Nursing in Saudi Arabia. Online Journal of Issues in Nursing; 11( 3),1-15.
  • Ministry of Education, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. www.moe.gov.sa.
  • Ministry of Education (Thailand). National Report 2004. International Conference on Education. Geneva: Sept 8-11 2004.
sources continued
Sources (Continued)
  • Mulder, Niels. Inside Thai Society. Amsterdam: The Peppin Press, 1996.
  • Mulder, Niels. Thai Images: The Culture of the Public World. Chiang Mai: Silk Worm Books, 1997
  • National Identity Board. Thailand into the 2000’s. Office of the Prime Minister (Kingdom of Thailand). Bangkok, 2000.
  • Prokop, Michaela(2003). Saudi Arabia: the politics of education, International Affairs, 79, 77-89.
  • Teay Shawyun and Krisda Tanchaisak. “A Better Understanding of the Core Values of Thai Undergraduates.” 2005.
  • www.into-asia.com
  • www.chula.ac.th
  • www.tu.ac.th
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OUTWIT

OUTPLAY

SURVIVOR

ADVISOR

OUTLAST

slide48

Scenario: You do not have a lot of time to write a term paper that is due in 2 days. What did Korean students say they would do?

(A) Ask a friend to write the paper for them.

(B) Find an article and copy word for word or paraphrase.

Spend many hours working on the term paper to submit something original.

(D) Turn in the paper late.

slide49

Scenario: You do not have a lot of time to write a term paper that is due in 2 days. What did Korean students say they would do?

(C) Spend many hours working on the term paper to submit something original.

in japan is there a daily cleaning period where students must clean the school in high school

In Japan, is there a daily cleaning period where students must clean the school (IN HIGH SCHOOL)?

in japan is there a daily cleaning period where students must clean the school in high school51

In Japan, is there a daily cleaning period where students must clean the school (IN HIGH SCHOOL)?

YES

what is the dress code for students at oxford university when taking official university exams

What is the dress code for students at Oxford University, when taking official university exams?

what is the dress code for students at oxford university when taking official university exams59

What is the dress code for students at Oxford University, when taking official university exams?

Official Academic Dress (cap and gown)

in laos during the 1970 s and 1980 s where did most students pursue degrees

In Laos during the 1970’s and 1980’s, where did most students pursue degrees?

France

U.S.S.R.

Cuba

United States

in thailand sanuk means

In Thailand, SANUK means:

Inhibition and Consideration

Smile

Fun

in saudi arabia when someone offers to help you is it polite to kindly refuse them at first

In Saudi Arabia, when someone offers to help you, is it polite to kindly refuse them at first?

in saudi arabia when someone offers to help you is it polite to kindly refuse them at first67

In Saudi Arabia, when someone offers to help you, is it polite to kindly refuse them at first?

NO

in the u k how many years does a typical undergraduate degree take

In the U.K., how many years does a typical undergraduate degree take?

Three years

Four years

Five years

slide72

Scenario: You are a grad student proctoring an exam and you see two students sharing answers. What did Thai students say they would do?

Ask them to stop talking and let them finish.

Take away exams and report to professor.

Ignore them but report to professor later.

Ignore them and never report to professor.

slide73

Scenario: You are a grad student proctoring an exam and you see two students sharing answers. What did Thai students say they would do?

(D) Ignore them and never report to professor.

what u s president received an honorary degree from a thai university

What U.S. President received an honorary degree from a Thai university?

(A) Jimmy Carter

George H.W. Bush

Bill Clinton

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