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More than just Potato and Potahto:

Differences in Educational Environments and Philosophies around the World

Angie Jones, University of Central Florida

John King, University of Central Florida


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Objectives and Overview

  • Purpose

  • Survey (Pre-Study)

  • Advisor-Survivor


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Purpose

  • To give an overview of educational philosophies from around the world to benefit general advisors in the areas of awareness, cultural programming, and developmental advising


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THAILAND

  • Intro to Thai culture

  • History of Education


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Thailand – Intro to Culture

  • Monarchy

  • Hierarchy

  • Buddhism


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Thailand – Intro to Culture

  • Collectivism

  • Sanuk (fun)

  • Conflict Avoidance

  • Kreng Jai

  • Land of Smiles


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Thailand – Intro to Culture

  • Polite smile for someone you barely know

  • Stiff smile “I should laugh at the joke though it’s not funny”

  • Evil ideas smile

  • I’m impressed smile

  • Lighten the mood smile

  • “Sorry I screwed up” smile

  • “My situation is so bad I might as well smile”


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Thai Universities – School Uniforms


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Thailand

Rigid rules, red tape

Exams more rigorous and graded more difficultly

Lack of critical analysis

Rote learning focused

United States

Many exceptions to rules

Exams often include points for efforts, extra chances

Critical analysis important

Participatory learning

Thailand vs. United States in Higher Ed


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Thailand

Strong mentoring between students

Voicing non-popular opinion considered disrespectful

Disagreeing with professor on academic subjects considered disrespectful

Aware of social class and hierarchy

United States

No cultural precedence for peer mentorship

Okay to voice non-popular opinion if provide a valid argument

Okay to disagree with many professors on academic subjects

Less aware of social class and hierarchy

Thailand vs. United States in Higher Ed


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SAUDI ARABIA

  • History of Education

  • General System of Education

  • Curriculum/Texts

  • Assessment

  • Culture in Education

  • Saudi Arabia vs. United States


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Saudi Arabia – History of Education

  • Islam focused – goal of spreading and honoring Muslim values

  • Kuttab schools focusing on Islamic studies, reading, writing

  • Simple agrarian society oil rich (1938)  education focus on resources

  • 1953 – Ministry of Education – centralized & modern reformed

  • 1970- Modern movement revisited: learn in a correct and comprehensive manner, Muslim values teaching and ideals, skills and knowledge to contribute to the development of the Saudi Arabian society ; economically, socially, and culturally


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Saudi Arabia – History of Education

  • 1957: King Saud University founded; 1st class had 21 students

  • 1961: Women admitted as external students in Colleges or Arts and Administrative Sciences

  • Today: 50,000 students


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Saudi Arabia – History of Education

  • 1970: 7000 students enrolled in colleges/universities

  • 2004: 200,000 students enrolled


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System of Education

  • Three levels:

    • Primary (six grades; ages 6-12)

    • Intermediate (three grades; ages 12-15)

    • Secondary (three grades; ages 15-18)

    • School Hours  5 days a week, Saturday to Wednesday

      • Seven periods of instruction (45 minutes each)

      • 20 minutes for lunch

      • 30 minutes devoted to noon prayers

      • Four Main Authorities of Education:

        • Ministry of Education

        • Presidency of Girl’s education (Eliminated in 2003)

        • Ministry of Higher Education

        • General Organization on Technological Education & Vocational Training


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Curriculum

  • Centralized & Academic: Developed by Ministry of Education

  • No flexibility of Electives

  • Teachers not involved in Curriculum Development

  • Specifics:

    • Primary: 9 hours a week for Arabic Lessons, 12 hours for other subjects

    • Intermediate: 8 hours/week for Arabic, 19 hours for other subjects

    • Secondary: Same as Intermediate; 11th – divided into science and arts (60% students must enter science track)


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Texts

  • One textbook per grade: teachers must stick to book

  • Censored to not include sex or female images

  • Teacher outlines text on board: Note-taking ?

  • Ignores students needs and abilities

  • Rote learning (Islamic Tradition) – move toward critical thinking skills


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Grading System


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Culture in Education

  • Respect and Dignity held high

  • Hospitality – guest first

  • Friendships – system of favors, rude to refuse help

  • Separation of grades from age seven

  • Voice opinion (sign of excellence) – loud voice marks a degree of seriousness


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Culture in Education

  • Student can help friend answer teacher’s question

  • Not cheating – communal learning, sharing

  • Student/Teacher relationship formal

  • Relationship between students is close and non-competitive

  • People more important than rules (negotiation)

  • Casual dress not encouraged in classroom

  • Inappropriate to ask about female members of a man’s family


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SAUDI ARABIA

Rote Learning Focus

Lessons do not conflict with Islamic principles

Negotiation of grades

More Individual Work

Expressing opinion in loud voice symbol of learning

Friendship/Family high importance

Separation by gender

UNITED STATES

Critical Analysis

Lessons usually no religious parameters

Grades often non-negotiable

Group Work focused

Expressing opinion in loud voice symbol of aggression/disrespect

Individuality/Self-Reliance

No separation by gender

Saudi Arabia vs. United States


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Sources

  • Al-Faisal, T. (2006). Saudi Education in the Global Economy Vital. Speeches of the Day 4/15/06, 72 (1), 414-416

  • Al-Saden, I.A (March 2000). Educational Assessment in Saudi Arabian Schools Assessment in Education: Principles, Policy, & Practice, 7(1), 143-156.

  • El-Sanabary, N. (1994). Female Education in Saudi Arabia and the reproduction of Gender Division, Gender & Education, 6(2).

  • Flaitz, J., Kosel, L. Kalaydijan, K., Miranda, A., Mitchell, D., Mohamed, A., Smith-Palinkas, B., York, J., Zollner, E. (2003). Understanding Your International Students: An Educational, Cultural and Linguistic Guide, Ann Arbor, MI: University of Michigan Press.

  • Miller-Rosser, K., Chapman, Y., & Francis, K. (2006). Historical, Cultural, and Contemporary Influences on the status of Women in Nursing in Saudi Arabia. Online Journal of Issues in Nursing; 11( 3),1-15.

  • Ministry of Education, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. www.moe.gov.sa.

  • Ministry of Education (Thailand). National Report 2004. International Conference on Education. Geneva: Sept 8-11 2004.


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Sources (Continued)

  • Mulder, Niels. Inside Thai Society. Amsterdam: The Peppin Press, 1996.

  • Mulder, Niels. Thai Images: The Culture of the Public World. Chiang Mai: Silk Worm Books, 1997

  • National Identity Board. Thailand into the 2000’s. Office of the Prime Minister (Kingdom of Thailand). Bangkok, 2000.

  • Prokop, Michaela(2003). Saudi Arabia: the politics of education, International Affairs, 79, 77-89.

  • Teay Shawyun and Krisda Tanchaisak. “A Better Understanding of the Core Values of Thai Undergraduates.” 2005.

  • www.into-asia.com

  • www.chula.ac.th

  • www.tu.ac.th


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OUTWIT

OUTPLAY

SURVIVOR

ADVISOR

OUTLAST


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In France, is it acceptable for students to arrive tardy to class?


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In France, is it acceptable for students to arrive tardy to class?

NO


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In Thailand, can students discuss the current government?


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In Thailand, can students discuss the current government?

NO


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In most schools in Jordan, can male and female students study in the same classroom?


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In most schools in Jordan, can male and female students study in the same classroom?

YES


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Can students in Korea wear sleeveless shirts to class?


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Can students in Korea wear sleeveless shirts to class?

YES


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Does the government in China pay all tuition fees?


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Does the government in China pay all tuition fees?

NO


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Are students in China required to live in dormitories?


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Are undergraduates in China required to live in dormitories?

YES


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What country has the famous university known as the Sorbonne?


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What country has the famous university known as the Sorbonne?

France


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In Venezuela, can students leave the classroom without permission?


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In Venezuela, can students leave the classroom without permission?

NO


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In Belarus, how many days per week must students attend class?

Four Days

Five Days

Six Days


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In Belarus, how many days per week must students attend class?

(C) Six Days


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In Turkey, is it acceptable for students to disagree with their professors in class?


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In Turkey, is it acceptable for students to disagree with their professors in class?

YES


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In Romania, are there rules prohibiting the consumption of alcohol on college campuses?


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In Romania, are there rules prohibiting the consumption of alcohol on college campuses?

NO


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Scenario: You do not have a lot of time to write a term paper that is due in 2 days. What did Korean students say they would do?

(A) Ask a friend to write the paper for them.

(B) Find an article and copy word for word or paraphrase.

Spend many hours working on the term paper to submit something original.

(D) Turn in the paper late.


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Scenario: You do not have a lot of time to write a term paper that is due in 2 days. What did Korean students say they would do?

(C) Spend many hours working on the term paper to submit something original.


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In Japan, is there a daily cleaning period where students must clean the school (IN HIGH SCHOOL)?


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In Japan, is there a daily cleaning period where students must clean the school (IN HIGH SCHOOL)?

YES


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Can Students in Jordan discuss sex in class?


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Can Students in Jordan discuss sex in class?

NO


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Can students in Colombia discuss sensitive topics in their nation’s history?


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Can students in Colombia discuss sensitive topics in their nation’s history?

YES


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Are there pubs in dormitories in the U.K.?


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Are there pubs in dormitories in the U.K.?

YES


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What is the dress code for students at Oxford University, when taking official university exams?


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What is the dress code for students at Oxford University, when taking official university exams?

Official Academic Dress (cap and gown)


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In Laos during the 1970’s and 1980’s, where did most students pursue degrees?

France

U.S.S.R.

Cuba

United States


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In Laos during the 1970’s and 1980’s, where did most students pursue degrees?

(B) U.S.S.R.


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In what country is the University of University of São Paulo?


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In what country is the University of University of São Paulo?

Brazil


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In Thailand, SANUK means:

Inhibition and Consideration

Smile

Fun


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In Thailand, SANUK means:

(C) Fun


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In Saudi Arabia, when someone offers to help you, is it polite to kindly refuse them at first?


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In Saudi Arabia, when someone offers to help you, is it polite to kindly refuse them at first?

NO


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In Saudi Arabia, can you discuss government corruption in class?


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In Saudi Arabia, can you discuss government corruption in class?

NO


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In the U.K., how many years does a typical undergraduate degree take?

Three years

Four years

Five years


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In the U.K., how many years does a typical undergraduate degree take?

Three years


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Scenario: You are a grad student proctoring an exam and you see two students sharing answers. What did Thai students say they would do?

Ask them to stop talking and let them finish.

Take away exams and report to professor.

Ignore them but report to professor later.

Ignore them and never report to professor.


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Scenario: You are a grad student proctoring an exam and you see two students sharing answers. What did Thai students say they would do?

(D) Ignore them and never report to professor.


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In Saudi Arabia, is there an emphasis on group work in class?

NO


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In what country is Cuza University?

Belarus

Bulgaria

Romania


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In what country is Cuza University?

(C)Romania


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What U.S. President received an honorary degree from a Thai university?

(A) Jimmy Carter

George H.W. Bush

Bill Clinton


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What U.S. President received an honorary degree from a Thai university?

(C) Bill Clinton


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