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Electronic and Athenian Democracy

Electronic and Athenian Democracy. Paul Cockshott Dept Comping Science University of Glasgow. Voting machines. In the museum of the Agora in Athens there are the remains of ancient voting machines the kleroterion Made of marble they had columns with narrow slots for tokens or cards.

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Electronic and Athenian Democracy

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  1. Electronic and Athenian Democracy Paul Cockshott Dept Comping Science University of Glasgow

  2. Voting machines • In the museum of the Agora in Athens there are the remains of ancient voting machines the kleroterion • Made of marble they had columns with narrow slots for tokens or cards.

  3. We are used to hearing of voting machines in the US. Their use in recent elections has been controversial. What is surprising is that voting machine technology is so old.

  4. Surprising Function • The greater surprise comes from realising how they worked. • They were not used to vote for candidates, but to randomly select the voters themselves to stand on the council or boule of the polis, or for the dikastai or jury

  5. No candidates only citizens • It appears that went up to the machine, placed their card in a slot. The archon then operated it, and was served up either a black or a white marble. • If they got the white one an entire column of citizens was elected onto the council if they got a black one the column of cards was discarded.

  6. Bronze voters id card used in a klereterion. • Card was retained by the archon when a citizen was alloted to office. They only got to get paid if they fullfilled the duty when they could recover the card.

  7. Random selection • The machinery was arguably a much more scientific and accurate representative mechanism than we currently have. • It ensured that the council was a statistically representative sample of the citizen body. • Contrast that with our parliaments which on grounds of gender, class and race are grossly unrepresentative of the voters.

  8. Aristotle • Aristotle (Politics, and Athenian Constitution ), argued that there were two key principles to democracy • The sovereign assembly of the citizens which decides major questions • The selection of councils and office bearers by lot from among the citizen body

  9. Aristotle continued • He further argued that states based on elections rather than lot were not democracies but aristocracies, • He said the principle of deliberate selection results in rule by the wealthier and better educated candidates. • Distinguishing feature of democracy was that the poor actually ruled the state.

  10. British System aristocratic in Aristotles terms • Current electoral system descends from electing knights of the shire – election of minor aristocrats to Commons alongside the major ones in the Lords. • Commons remains aristocratic in Aristotle’s terms – preponderance of lawyers and businessmen. • Arguably no alternative in 19th century when reforms began.

  11. Now options open • With modern technology the original principles of democracy can be restored. • If people can vote electronically on Big Brother, they could also do so on critical national questions as the citizens did in Athens • Examples: Peace or war, level of national budget, levels of taxation.

  12. Terms of choice • Need for protocols for questions to be put to the vote, and for structure of questions. Eg Should Education Spending • go up 1% • stay the same • go down 1% Average vote gives a definite real valued answer for the change in expenditure.

  13. Lot and Lords Reform • Consider Lords reform – could one not have the lords replaced by an Athenian style boule of citizens drawn randomly from the electoral register to serve for a year. • Could the system put in by Camelot be modified for this?

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