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Descartes argument for dualism. Descartes has shown in meditation 2 that he can understand himself purely as a thinking thing In meditation 5 he has shown that he can understand bodies purely in terms of their spatial, extended characteristics

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descartes argument for dualism
Descartes argument for dualism
  • Descartes has shown in meditation 2 that he can understand himself purely as a thinking thing
  • In meditation 5 he has shown that he can understand bodies purely in terms of their spatial, extended characteristics
  • Whatever can be understood clearly and distinctly as distinct really is distinct
  • Therefore there is a real distinction between mind and body.
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Is it true that we can understand our minds independently of anything physical?
  • Is it true that whatever we can understand as distinct is really distinct?
  • Lightning is identical to an electrical discharge, but it was a scientific discovery that these “two” things were really one.
  • Could the same be true of mind/body?
another argument for dualism
Another argument for dualism
  • Physical things are spatially extended (have a certain size, exist in space)
  • Minds have no spatial extension
  • Whatever is identical must have all properties in common.
  • Therefore minds and bodies are distinct things.
the mind body problem
The Mind/Body Problem
  • Descartes is an interactionist dualist. He believes that there is causal interaction between minds and bodies.
  • When I move my hand my mind causes my body to move.
  • When I stub my toe, my body causes my mind to experience pain

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it s hard to understand how interaction is possible
It’s hard to understand how interaction is possible
  • It seems that when two things causally interact, they must share a common medium, they must be able to “meet up” somehow
  • One billiard ball can cause another to move only because they are both in space and can touch each other
  • The Moon and Earth do not touch, but they share the medium of space. Even “action at a distance” presupposes a common medium
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But if the mind is not in space, it cannot meet up with the body, nor is it possible for anything physical to come into contact to the mind.
  • Therefore (the critic argues) dualism leads to the conclusion that mind body interaction is impossible
  • But this is crazy—therefore there is something wrong with dualism
dualist responses
Dualist Responses
  • Causal interaction is in general mysterious. There is no special problem for mind/body interaction
  • Just because we do not understand how mind/body interaction can work, does not mean it cannot work (see above) experience teaches they do interact.
another mind body problem
Another mind/body problem
  • It is a presuposition of science that the physical world is causally closed. This means that the cause of every physical event (if it has a cause) is also something physical.
  • But interactionist dualism denies this. If interactionist dualism is true, there are some events in the brain that are caused by a non-physical thing, the mind.
alternatives to substance dualism
Alternatives to substance dualism
  • Materialism: If the mind identical brain processes, there is no mind/body problem, since the mind itself is something physical.
  • Idealism: If matter is it itself mental or mind dependent, again no mind/body problem
alternative versions of dualism
Alternative versions of dualism
  • Property dualism: there is only one kind of thing (matter) but this thing sometimes has mental properties
  • Epiphenomenalist dualism: The body interacts causally with the mind, but not vice/versa. Mental states are byproducts of brain activity (like car exhaust)
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